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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 10:14:35 AM »
Think we still have more cattlemen then hippies but the are coming in. Right now we are talking about the money issue and it is clear we cannot afford it

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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2011, 10:16:54 AM »
I will be there for the public input with the following testimony and supporting data.

That is kick ass testimony right there!  If they ignore those facts then there really is NO hope.
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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 11:22:53 AM »
The graphs are a GREAT visual! i would print up several copies to give to the commision, and a few to pass around to the crowd!  :tup:   We all think this is an absurd plan but the picture painted shows it so much better! Great job BP!
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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2011, 11:50:31 AM »
thanks for being there guys!  if thursdays weren't our busiest day at work, i'd be there with you!

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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 11:55:38 AM »
Awesome testimony, Dale.
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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 12:21:58 PM »
Dale,
Extremely well put together testimony!  Good luck and hope to hear how the meeting goes.  The Archery Coalition is in the process of writing a letter to the Commission in regards to the wolf plan also.  (the draft is out to the coalition board members of the WSAA, TBW and WSB for editing and approval). We plan on submitting our letter showing our displeasure with the WDFW plan and backing the Minority Plan that came out of the wolf working group.  Thanks for all your hard work,

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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 12:32:00 PM »
I'm sure we will hear all about this tomorrow, but does anybody know if we will be getting any realtime info as this goes along from members that are there? i.e. texted, phone calls to other members to post updates.

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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 12:33:01 PM »
I'm heading there right now, I'll report back in a couple of hours.
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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2011, 12:43:53 PM »
SWEET! I'm curious to hear what they have to say. We all know there is NO way our state can support 15 BP's. Anything else they try and shove down us is total B.S. Thanks Machias keep us posted.

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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2011, 01:12:39 PM »
It sounds like sebek is there also Can't wait to hear how it went.

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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2011, 03:45:49 PM »
killbilly had US all signed up, I spoke first, then killbilly, seabek, and machias. now I am listening to a wolf lover wanting them to adopt the plan, now Stevens county commissioner and cattleman is talking.
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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2011, 03:49:51 PM »
Well they started off running late, no big suprise, then the Colville Indians presented their case.  Which basically said uh since they are NOT Federally Protected we will be coming up with our own wolf plan (we'll try and work with the state) but our main focus will be to continue to be able to allow our members the current levels of hunting deer, elk and moose.  I was shocked to hear they are harvesting around 35 to 40 moose a year.  Anyways they have several confirmed wolf photos and scat analysis which, and I could be worng on this, but which are not included in the current state totals.  Then the commission members each rattled on and on, You'll have to ask Dale and Al which guy was living in fantasy land, I can't remember which commissioner it was, but he is from Oly.  He even changed his position while he was talking.  Dale thinks and I agree with him, he was trying to cater to more than one group.  But whatever he's smoking, I hope it doesn't waft over to the other commissioners.
 
15 breeding pairs?  From what I heard today I think that is going to be the number.  I even heard fantasy land man saying 18 to 25 breeding pairs.  Now he was speaking about why the state wouldn't need 3 years of 15 breeding pairs if we shot up to 18 to 25, but trust me that is a number he is hoping for.
 
Public input was supposed to begin at 1315, it started at 1505.  Dale was first and Al was second and Sebek556 was third and I went fourth.  They have 83 people signed up to speak.  I considered just going up to say thanks for having the meeting on the Eastside and I concur with Dale and Al, but then I got to thinking, with all the wolf lovers in the room, maybe some of them will give up and head home, so I used my whole three minutes...actually I'm pretty sure they short changed me about 15 seconds, but no biggie, they got the gist of what I was saying.  To be honest, I'm not sure how to take the commission.  On one hand I like alot of what I heard, but on the other hand I feel like 15+ breeding pairs is full steam ahead.   :dunno:
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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2011, 03:53:25 PM »
Thanks for the update, Machias. I think this commission are all in fantasy land. If this turns out like you think it might, it'll be a damned shame and the beginning of the end for our hunting privileges.
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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2011, 04:00:37 PM »
Yeah ..thanks Machias.... Yep thats there plan to let the wolves eat them all up !!!! makes me sick ! all I know is I will be hunting till I am dead  :dunno: :yeah:

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Re: Fish & Wildlife Commission Special Meeting (Nov. 3-5) Agenda - Spokane
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2011, 04:11:13 PM »
Thank you everyone for attending and for the continued updates. My apologies for being unable to attend.  Looking forward to hearing more feedback

 


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