nile paper says muck's shot 140+/- deer last weekend?

[trophyhunt]

Heard from people that hunt over in the nile area that the local paper had reported that the mucks killed over a hundred forty some deer before the opener of regular deer season. I'm not here to start a bad rumor, just want to know if anyone else has seen this report?  I think we have some people that live in that area on the this site.  If it's not true, sorry don't mean to get anyone's blood boiling. Just had to ask.

[huntergreg]

   WHat paper?

[Caliber]

Heard a rumor of a Park Ranger that stopped some Tribal members this side of the pass with two bucks 3 does and a fawn in one truck.  Little Naches is done after a couple more years, they took 150 bucks out of there last year, which is more than the general season took out of several units combined. 

[trophyhunt]

Guys I wish I had more info, they just said it was a local paper from a town past naches.  I will have my wife find out which town it was, she works with the people that read it.

[huntergreg]

here is a link on some of whats going on up there But not to the paper trophyhunt  is talking about.
http://sportsyakima.com/2011/09/hunting-where-their-ancestors-did/

[trophyhunt]

I sure hope we can get some facts on the numbers the mucks are taking.  If all this stuff is true.... I wouldn't even know where to start.

[Coastal_native]

they took 150 bucks out of there last year, which is more than the general season took out of several units combined.

I'm just curious where that number came from?  I noticed the NWIFC only had 44 total deer reported for member tribes in the Little Naches.

[huntergreg]

they took 150 bucks out of there last year, which is more than the general season took out of several units combined.

I'm just curious where that number came from?  I noticed the NWIFC only had 44 total deer reported for member tribes in the Little Naches.

Do they have to report any animal harvested?

[longknife]

Just a question, why are the mukelshoot tribes allowed to hunt on a yakima tribal hunting area? Are they a shared space?

[trophyhunt]

longknife, read the article huntergreg posted. I just did and it explains why the mucks think they should be able to hunt in the Nile area.  I don't see how we can prove them wrong, but I wonder if the mucks and the yaks got along 150+ years ago?

[Coastal_native]

I think the reporting requirements for tribal hunters are specific to the tribes, but I'm assuming there are at least some controls for reporting for each tribe...or else that would defeat the purpose of tracking harvest.  All member tribes report their harvest to the NWIFC, although I'm not really sure if that's a requirement of being a member or if there are pennalties for nonreporting.  From what I know, the NWIFC does an outstanding job.

[longknife]

Thats just it,,,,or a pay off (casino $) so they can say they did have the right...
Thats alot of overhunting in one specific area!! i saw they have to report within 10 days(after kill), but with the firewater flowing, it wont be for a couple weeks...

[Caliber]

NWIFC only reports what is reported to them.  Yakimas dont belong to the NWIFC.
The 150 number was reported by the Yakima area WDFW biologist, Jeff Bernatowitz, when talking about factors contributing to the low numbers of deer in the Yakima area, along with the deer lice, low fawn recruitement etc.
By the way I just added the buck harvest up from 2010 for the Little Naches, Nile, Bumping, and Bethel and came up with a whopping 129 Bucks harvested for all weapons for the "all citizens" hunting seasons-

[trophyhunt]

NWIFC only reports what is reported to them.  Yakimas dont belong to the NWIFC.
The 150 number was reported by the Yakima area WDFW biologist, Jeff Bernatowitz, when talking about factors contributing to the low numbers of deer in the Yakima area, along with the deer lice, low fawn recruitement etc.
By the way I just added the buck harvest up from 2010 for the Little Naches, Nile, Bumping, and Bethel and came up with a whopping 129 Bucks harvested for all weapons for the "all citizens" hunting seasons-

Was that 150 deer taken from just the mucks, yaks or both? Either way, WOW. That makes my stomach sick. If that's true, what the hell are they trying to prove?

[wintersteelhead]

I spoke to the warden in greenwater last weekend, and he does not even know what the tribal seasons are. Talk about "hand tied". I guess the pressure has been off of the west side a bit, from the sounds of  things