nile paper says muck's shot 140+/- deer last weekend?

[Coastal_native]

It's amazing how Arizona, New Mexico and other states have world class hunting and game management on the reservations and Washington tribes seem not to really care. They would rather exploit the issue.

The fact that you even made a comparison between washington reservations and reservations in the SW shows me that you don't understand the issue.

[woodswalker]

http://www.petethomasoutdoors.com/2011/07/oregon-deer-poachers-to-spend-hunting-seasons-in-jail.html

heres a real poacher. read this in a hunting mag couple weeks ago. PROOF.

short sentence...and not enough fines.

[boneaddict]

As for the Muck shooting\poaching a sheep, we have a member here who dealt with that, so I know thats fact.   I hope they fry his a$$.   A patient of mine asked me if I saw the article in the paper about the Nile deer, so I will look to see if I can find the link. 

[whiteeyes]

Advanced Hunters shot more elk than the Tribe could even come close to. Not to mention shooting cows after the first of the year. So two kills in one. Now thats really saving the resources. Driving up and down the pavement till they find a field with elk  and then the slaughter begins. See it year after year, have had to run them off our property several times. We are north of town. (Ellensburg).   

[Practical Approach]

I swear, the longer I monitor some of these threads the more I lose respect for the opinions expressed by a large number of the users.  I can't believe the mob mentality that some of these threads exhibit. If you don't have the document to share with the group, then don't start a rumor mill. 


Can someone produce this "Nile newspaper article" Surely someone lives in the area or has the resources to dig it up.  If after 5 pages of threads it hasn't been produced, I doubt it exists.   

[buck man]

Just a thought ... since the Yakima rez has the largest free ranging horse herd in the nation and with everyone of these threads that I have read I have come to the conclusion that the natives only hunt for meat . Then why not hunt your 5000 plus horses and eat them? You have plenty to spare and I am sure the mucks would love some of that sweet horse flesh too.
 That would save hundreds of deer and elk for the rest of us. I know that lots of tribes did eat horses when times were tough.  Maybe its time to resurrect some of those ancient practices? 

[PlateauNDN]

Just a thought ... since the Yakima rez has the largest free ranging horse herd in the nation and with everyone of these threads that I have read I have come to the conclusion that the natives only hunt for meat . Then why not hunt your 5000 plus horses and eat them? You have plenty to spare and I am sure the mucks would love some of that sweet horse flesh too.
 That would save hundreds of deer and elk for the rest of us. I know that lots of tribes did eat horses when times were tough.  Maybe its time to resurrect some of those ancient practices? 

I know buck man some ancient tale you heard that Tribes ate horses is probably true somewhere but not here.  I don't know if you have been here long but I have spoken about the wild horse herds and the reasons why we can't, on our own lands deplete the herds.  If you by chance are somebody high up on the Federal Food Chain and can give us the go-ahead then please do so now and I would love to run up to the hills and knock some down.  But, until then please don't begin to think because there is an abundant of one problem it can be solved with an easy fix without severe consuquences.

[boneaddict]

I looked through the Herald online....I assumed that was the paper that was being mentioned by the patient.   I couldn't find it.    I don't read the Herald as its not worth the paper its printed on....talk about a waste of resources.   

I hear you whiteeyes.  I am very much against that practice as well, and trust me they have to listen to me biotching about it.  I've probably lost friends over it.


Hey Plat, are you guys bound on the horse deal too.  Sounds like it by your words?  If you've posted that on here, sorry I missed it.  There is a *censored*load of them on the Rez, and assumed if they were an issue they'd get dealt with.   

[Austrian Hunter]

Horse salami 

[PlateauNDN]

I looked through the Herald online....I assumed that was the paper that was being mentioned by the patient.   I couldn't find it.    I don't read the Herald as its not worth the paper its printed on....talk about a waste of resources.   

I hear you whiteeyes.  I am very much against that practice as well, and trust me they have to listen to me biotching about it.  I've probably lost friends over it.


Hey Plat, are you guys bound on the horse deal too.  Sounds like it by your words?  If you've posted that on here, sorry I missed it.  There is a *censored*load of them on the Rez, and assumed if they were an issue they'd get dealt with.

It's not so much the Feds holding it up more than the    .  They have made it their mission to stop the senseless slaughter of herds that are beyond their control.  They are not the ones having to deal with them and see the damage they are causing but since they are a "majestic" animal on our lands and they have the ear of the Feds who have control they are winning temporarily just like the sea-lions.

It was in the Yak-herald a couple of weeks ago about the amount of harvested bucks last year by the Muckleshoot and I believe it stated 139.

[CedarPants]

Plat an honest question here, as I genuinely just want to know and am not as informed as I should be.  The Feds have a say on the wildlife on the reservation ..... is that what you are saying?  As in they can tell you what you can and can't do with wildlife within your sovereign nation?  That doesn't seem right    Or is it written somewhere that the Feds retained the right to manage animals under the ESA no matter where they are located?

[PlateauNDN]

It's the    that are    to the Feds and court systems saying the wild horse herds are a majestic animal and wild that need to be here and should not be reduced by any means blah blah blah.  The conservation groups are tossing them in the same pot as the sea-lions and the Feds and courts have said don't do anything until you have a plan for reduction in a humane manner that we will approve and sign off on and everybody is happy with.   Until then they get to reproduce faster then rabbits and runamuk   on the rez destroying and competing for food supplies with deer and speed goats and other animals.

[boneaddict]

You should see the adopt a horse program.   They monitor those horses more than if a kid were to be adopted.  Its crazy!

[runamuk]

Hey I don't reproduce at all any more as a horse person I have heard it all...and then I saw the herds on the rez....have seen them in Idaho...heard about them in nevada where many were starving....they are not native to this country they are invasive just like zebr mussels and loosestrife

[trophyhunt]

I looked through the Herald online....I assumed that was the paper that was being mentioned by the patient.   I couldn't find it.    I don't read the Herald as its not worth the paper its printed on....talk about a waste of resources.   

I hear you whiteeyes.  I am very much against that practice as well, and trust me they have to listen to me biotching about it.  I've probably lost friends over it.


Hey Plat, are you guys bound on the horse deal too.  Sounds like it by your words?  If you've posted that on here, sorry I missed it.  There is a *censored*load of them on the Rez, and assumed if they were an issue they'd get dealt with.

It's not so much the Feds holding it up more than the    .  They have made it their mission to stop the senseless slaughter of herds that are beyond their control.  They are not the ones having to deal with them and see the damage they are causing but since they are a "majestic" animal on our lands and they have the ear of the Feds who have control they are winning temporarily just like the sea-lions.

It was in the Yak-herald a couple of weeks ago about the amount of harvested bucks last year by the Muckleshoot and I believe it stated 139.

Thanks for finding the article, can you in anyway post it for us.