Firsthand from WDFW on firearms while unlicensed

[cwuwildcat]

They can ask for identification just to be certain you are not a convicted felon and that's about it. So be kind, show them your ID let them run your name and thank them for their concern and move on.

They can ask, and you can refuse.  Remember, we aren't their subjects.  Unless you're suspected of having committed, or are about to commit a crime, you are under no obligation to provide id.  This isn't a police state, and it isn't a stop and ID.  They can't pull over cars just to make sure the driver has a license or insurance, and they can't make you give id just to see if you're a felon.

That is why I stated "They can "ASK" I never said they can "DEMAND" to see your ID.

They will, however, ask for it, so be nice and show them, don't be a hard ass they are just doing their job. You don't make any friends when you become a flagrant azzho to LEO. You can deal with it properly and professionally without the " I know my RIGHTS" BS. You are not required to answer any incriminating questions, just be polite and think before you speak!

Might want to reread what I wrote.  Never indicated you wrote "DEMAND".  Also, I'm not on this earth to make their job easier.  You want to roll over and take it in the rear wanting to be nice, so that they can do something they dont need to do, more power to ya!  I've done nothing wrong, and expect to be treated that way.  They expect me to follow the rules, and I expect them to do the same.  They can ask me, and I expect to politely decline and go my way.  They want to arrest me for doing nothing, I've got an attorney on speed dial.

[jeepasaurusrex]

 

[FALFire]

Bottom line is ....... if you are hunting, you are hunting period just be certain to follow the laws as written in the hunting booklet. That is why they will always ask if you are hunting so they can take it to the next level. If you are NOT hunting you can carry any legal firearm while out joyfully hiking in the woods.

[phishisgroovin]

My original post was in regards to my calling WDFW enforcement and asking about sidearms, hadnt really thought about rifles.
I wanted my Nephew armed for Up close and personal with my .38 giving my Brother in law time to use the Big gun and my Nephew a piece of mind that he wasnt unarmed.

He took the online part of hunter ed, but couldnt line up the field test part in time.

[huntinguy]

Simple solution. Just make sure it is not a legal hunting arm. So hand him a pistol with a barrel less than 4 inches and there can be no complaint. Well, not much of one.

As to the concealed carry without a permit. I know it keeps getting stated that you can. Hunting regulations are different from state law. NO YOU CAN NOT CARRY CONCEALED WITHOUT A PERMIT. I have asked too many lawyers, LEO's and even a judge and they all say you will get free room and board!

Just keep it in plane site and all is good.

[bobcat]

As to the concealed carry without a permit. I know it keeps getting stated that you can. Hunting regulations are different from state law. NO YOU CAN NOT CARRY CONCEALED WITHOUT A PERMIT. I have asked too many lawyers, LEO's and even a judge and they all say you will get free room and board!

Yes you can!  The law was posted previously in this thread. It's been discussed on here many times. Don't believe what law enforcment people tell you. Many of them do not know the law.

[Wile E. Hunter]

No, ya can't. Carrying a concealed weapon is illegal. You can have it concealed if it's unloaded, however. Loaded and concealed? Felony.

Wile E.

[billythekidrock]

That is kind of confusing.  I know someone who was cited for having his big game rifle with him while accompanying a friend on and elk hunt because he didn't have an elk tag.  It was his first year hunting and he was unaware and took his rifle for coyotes. 

I was told that if I had a rifle for bear and my brother had a bow for elk that I could be cited if they could "put me on the elk" in anyway including pushing the elk or directing my brother to the elk. Those actions are considered hunting.
 
I would bet the same would be considered even if two rifle hunters were only glassing elk while one had a rifle elk tag and the other a bear tag. 

[bobcat]

No, ya can't. Carrying a concealed weapon is illegal. You can have it concealed if it's unloaded, however. Loaded and concealed? Felony.

Wile E.

What else can I say other than:                   

[bobcat]

 

RCW 9.41.060 Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.

The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:

     (1) Marshals, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens or their deputies, correctional personnel and community corrections officers as long as they are employed as such who have completed government-sponsored law enforcement firearms training and have been subject to a check through the national instant criminal background check system or an equivalent background check within the past five years, or other law enforcement officers of this state or another state. Correctional personnel and community corrections officers seeking the waiver provided for by this section are required to pay for any background check that is needed in order to exercise the waiver;

     (2) Members of the armed forces of the United States or of the national guard or organized reserves, when on duty;

     (3) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed pistol;

     (4) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of the person, if possessing, using, or carrying a pistol in the usual or ordinary course of the business;

     (5) Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive pistols from the United States or from this state;

     (6) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of target shooting, when those members are at or are going to or from their places of target practice;

     (7) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of modern and antique firearm collecting, when those members are at or are going to or from their collector's gun shows and exhibits;

    [8] Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

     (9) Any person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a closed opaque case or secure wrapper; or

     (10) Law enforcement officers retired for service or physical disabilities, except for those law enforcement officers retired because of mental or stress-related disabilities. This subsection applies only to a retired officer who has: (a) Obtained documentation from a law enforcement agency within Washington state from which he or she retired that is signed by the agency's chief law enforcement officer and that states that the retired officer was retired for service or physical disability; and (b) not been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity of a crime making him or her ineligible for a concealed pistol license.

[jaymark6655]

  You beat me to it.

[CAMPMEAT]

What happened to our 2nd amendment rights ?

[jaymark6655]

What happened to our 2nd amendment rights ?

What do you mean?  You can carry concealed without a permit if you are out hiking, fishing, hunting and whatever else qualifies as an outdoor activity.

[Fishnclifff]

What happened to our 2nd amendment rights ?

What do you mean?  You can carry concealed without a permit if you are out hiking, fishing, hunting and whatever else qualifies as an outdoor activity.

 

When you are done recreating and get back in yor car---- if you have no CCW, unload yor sidearm  stow it, and drive home---if ya gots a CCW, drive home

[ghosthunter]

What happened to our 2nd amendment rights ?

What do you mean?  You can carry concealed without a permit if you are out hiking, fishing, hunting and whatever else qualifies as an outdoor activity.

 

When you are done recreating and get back in yor car---- if you have no CCW, unload yor sidearm  stow it, and drive home---if ya gots a CCW, drive home

Yikes folks dont add stuff that isnt there. Read the law posted above by bobcat. Read the last sentence in black "is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;
 
As long as you are  traveling to or from you are exempt from the loaded handgun in the truck. You  strap it on loaded drive to your outdoor activity, go for hike ,get back in your ride and drive home. No loading or unloading required ,no permit required.