Opinions Please

[Machias]

What do you think, for illegal bear baiting to take place, does the bait have to be inside the State border?

[quadrafire]

  Better explain

[Machias]

Pretty self explanitory, in order to be charged with illegal bear baiting, does the "bait" have to be in WA?

[h20hunter]

So, you could have a bait 100 yards across the border, set up, whack boo boo as soon as he crosses the line coming or going to the bait.........interesting.

[Machias]

 

[runamuk]

I would fathom that it would depend on the person charged with investigating. 

I would think a bear bait on property that is on both sides of the state lines would be perfectly legal as long as the bait was in say Idaho....really kinda a loophole I think only a few people might use to their advantage  .... if the baits on the Idaho side and the hunting is happening on the WA side could be an issue if law enforcement wanted to make it one is my best guess

[Tony]

Interesting scenario but i would say if bait was in the other state you should be fine since you cant control were the bear travels. If Gammie was to check you out they shouldn't be checking across state line for bait is my opinion.

[Machias]

Well if you have a WA Hunting Lic and bear tag and you have an Idaho Hunting Lic, bear tag and a ID bear baiting permit, if you harvest a bear in WA coming to the bait in ID, do you think you could be charged?  I'm thinking not, but just curious what everone else thinks.  I appreciate the thoughts and opinions.

[Machias]

BigTex, any thoughts or opinions?   

[jmx369]

The problem comes in with "intent". Essentially, you are baiting the bear with the intent to harvest it in Washington. I would think that they would try to prosecute if you were caught. It seems to me that gammies only want to find fault and write tickets without any sort of discretion.
 

[Machias]

That would clearly be the "intent", just wondering if they could charge you since the "bait" or "substance", is not in WA and therefore not under the jurisdiction of the state....but I could very well be mistaken.   

[WAcoyotehunter]

haha- remember you can't bait deer/elk in Idaho...you could have both states after you if you played your cards right!! 

Deer hunting in Idaho with Washington bait and bear hunting in Washington with Idaho bait.  It's all so confusing....

[Machias]

 

[Helix]

I'm not a gammie or an attorney but my guess would be it dosn't matter where the bait is if you tag it with a WA tag you are subject to baiting not being allowed.  If you tag with an ID tag, you should not have shot it in WA...  Transporting untagged big game across state lines would probably get you in more trouble than the bait. 

[Machias]

If you tag with an ID tag, you should not have shot it in WA...  Transporting untagged big game across state lines would probably get you in more trouble than the bait. 

Absolutely, that would be a no brainer.