Lions and Bobbies.

[Arteman]

It's ILLEGAL to pursue lions and bobcats with dogs in this state.  Now if you want to keep your dog on a leash and not have a weapon, then you would be perfectly legal, but have a weapon or unsnap the lead and you are in violation.

Yep, and good luck getting one jumped and treed with your dog on a leash.

[Caseyd]

Just leave the leash on but let go 

[Huntboy]

Just leave the leash on but let go 

[jackmaster]

how does one go about getn are hound and baiting rights back, dont we only have to have so many signatures to get it on a voting ballot or some crap, we need tim eyemen or whatever his name is to help us out or someone that is a bit more polically correct than i am.

[Arteman]

Just leave the leash on but let go 

I got a good laugh out that one! 

[Feanix]

how does one go about getn are hound and baiting rights back, dont we only have to have so many signatures to get it on a voting ballot or some crap, we need tim eyemen or whatever his name is to help us out or someone that is a bit more polically correct than i am.

Washington for Wildlife, as well as many other sportsmen and women, including hound owners, sent their letters and recommendations to WDFW this fall when they were taking them for the up oming season setting sessikn. Unfortunately, they only review seasons and rules every 3 years, so if they dont change it for next year, without special circumstances or a large petition, it will be 2016, before we have another shot at it

[jackmaster]

ok so how do we go about getn them to atleast seriously consider it on the next season change, give me an email or a mailing address, i will send emails and letters matter a fact i would love to, i cant believe the game department isnt doing what they can to help us out in this matter, they are passing up alot of damn money thats for sure, help me out here i will be happy to stand at stores and post offices and where ever necessary to get signatures..... lets go people lets get are damn rights back, if you have never heard a hound bring a cat around a mountain on clear stary night with a foot of snow on the ground then you are seriously missing out, or sneakn up to your traps and hearing the rustle of your trap chain and heart starts pumpn, the home show is comin up soon and so is the sportsman show i could get us a crap load of signatures..... come on help me out now get me the paper work and i will do the rest.........

[Machias]

It's never going to happen....pretty pessimistic??  Yep we couldn't get the majority of sportsman to lift a finger last time and even then we had a bunch who were against it.  In this state, you will never get a ballot initiative to pass, I'd be shocked if you could even get enough signatures to get it on the ballot, but even if we did, it would never pass in this state, it just wouldn't.

[jackmaster]

well help get the signature papers and i will get the signatures, me and trophy hunt have even changed the minds of some serious tree huggers here at work, and with the threat of wolves and the thought of deer being eatn up by cougars or the thought of a baby calf elk then we can change minds, we just gotta do it and now is the time, tell me who to contact to get these signature papers and i will get what we need, in the mean time we need someone that uis better at writing to the soft side of people and explain to them what cats do to deer and elk, someone scientific, i will make a million damn copies and disperse them all over the damn state, and if anyone knows someone at the WDFW we need them to get involved and help us, they are the ones that will really benefit by the money this will generate and with budget cuts they need this..... we gotta fight hand tooth and nail to get this back.... lazy ass people need not help just stay out of the way but make damn sure you vote in favor of this for the sake of OUR deer and elk population...

[Houndhunter]

I would devote alot of time collecting signatures if we got something organized. I think we can get a bill on the ballot, we just need a few committed people. I really do not know how to go about getting started but i sure as hell want to be apart of getting our dogs back out in the woods. This will be my first year in awhile that i won't get to run a cat, and ihate seeing my dog sit in her kennel only to be hunted a few times a year.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Well good luck to ya ...there has been many who have gotten signatures over the last couple years and they still seem to shut us down ....maybe we need a protest hunt ....get all the hounds we can round up and turn them loose all on the same mountain ...LIKE Queen  Ann Hill 

[Machias]

The last thing I ever want to do is stiffle something but look at it realistically.  Ok, your able to get organized enough to get the signature process started, then you get enough volunteers to collect enough signatures (massive effort), you succeed and get it on the ballot.  Then what?  You are MILLIONS of dollars behind the game.   Do you have a war chest?  Just because you get it on the ballot you need to run commercials, adds in the papers and on the radio, etc...  They already have MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars just sitting there waiting to crush any initiative you could come up with.  Think they'll tell the truth this time?  Nope, they will just run a few thousand commercials showing some SOB shooting a cub out to a bunch of hungry hounds....game over.  Look I'll get involved and work my ass off, but realistically, it ain't happening in this state just because 200 houndsmen want to run their dogs.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Exactely Machias.... and the next time we try to get something done we need a sheet load of support which means alot more people getting involved ...but it still will never happen most likely 

[Houndhunter]

i would still try, i do thinks its possible to get a hound bill on the ballot. and i aslo believe our wdfw could potentially support it, i dont see us having commercials on tv but i could definetly see some radio coverage. im sure some radio stations would do a segment on it.

i cant lead something like this but will throw my support to the fullest. id like to see wfw try to set something up as they are some what organized but i dont think hounds are on their agenda. if i could just move i would but unfortunetly im stuck in this state and hound hunting in idaho just isnt realistic for me because of where i live. i would want to atleast try for some pursuit only seasons, thats all i really want is to tree not kill some critters

[jackmaster]

i am all in even if it was pursuit only, course i would rather be able to shoot a cougar in a tree instead of walkn away or we could atleast get it to hound permit only but damn we need hound huntn back, these damn cats are tearing are deer population apart, and i aint ashame to say that i aint good enough to call them in, i will donate every evening and every weekend until we get enough signatures, and even just handing out letters with no b.s info on it about why we need this back and why it benefits alot more people than just hound hunters, then i think in this economy it might just be possible