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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2011, 10:39:19 PM »
Two bucks a day per member from July through November. 6 tags per member on the north half. Not sure how good that management is. Also, last I recall, their deer numbers were way down, and primarily bears were to blame.

Its great managment because hardly anybody hunts these deer. And deer numbers are down everywhere, not just on the rez.

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2011, 11:28:56 PM »
That's a mighty fine buck. :tup: 

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2011, 11:37:34 PM »
What a TOAD! Great buck :tup:

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2011, 11:39:35 PM »
I am not sure that I would call what the tribe does "good managment", but the fact that they don't have that many hunters in relation to the amount of land, that there is some great habitat up there on the rez, and that if you are one of the guys that is willing to get out and work for your deer easily makes up for their deer-per-hunter harvest. 
Truth is that there are mule deer living in there that rarely (if ever) see a hunter puts age class on them, and that they harvest a lot of does so the buck-to-doe ratio is pretty high.

All the politics aside, that's a great buck, and I'll bet it was harvested by a guy that puts in his time in the woods. :tup:
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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2011, 02:15:22 AM »
Beautiful buck!  There are a lot more bucks of that quality on that rez than you might think.  Just sayin'.   ;)

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2011, 07:27:27 AM »
I don't think you can credit management for this buck.  :twocents:

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2011, 08:05:28 AM »
awesome buck! on the other hand it pisses me of that people are assuming everything when they have little information on this animal or kill, give the guy some credit.  :twocents:

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2011, 08:06:02 AM »
I don't think you can credit management for this buck.  :twocents:

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2011, 09:16:51 AM »
Two bucks a day per member from July through November. 6 tags per member on the north half. Not sure how good that management is. Also, last I recall, their deer numbers were way down, and primarily bears were to blame.
It is actually 2 bucks per day per tribal member from June 1 till Sept 30Th, then starting Oct 1- Dec 31 its 2 deer a day per tribal member, as Doe season opens up on Oct 1. That is for the South half of the reservation, which is actual tribal land. As far as the North Half goes, the ceded land, you are not allowed 6 tags per year, you are allowed 3 tags per year per tribal member. Nearly half if not more of these tags never get filled because there is no need to drive clear to the North Half and hunt when big bucks and more deer in general live way closer, also the tribe issued a recommendation that due to low observed white tail deer fawn recruitment following extreme winter conditions from 2007 to 2009, after a 2010 aerial surveying they recommended to not harvest white tail deer our of any of the north half, and to also avoid shooting white tail doe's throughout hunting season. I am not going to argue with you about management practices, if this deer was shot anywhere else, by anyone else we would not even be having this conversation in the first place. Deer numbers are not nearly as low on the reservation as  they are elsewhere in the state, and the fact that there is already over 18 inches of snow in the high country around the reservation, and its just now Dec 1st has a lot more to do with low deer numbers, than the harvesting of these animals. This has been one of the more mild starts to winter we have had in the last 3 to 4 years, and that as you should know, since you seem to know a lot about deer management it sounds like, has a very negative impact on the deer herd as a whole. I personally know the guy that shot this deer, and he puts in the foot work for his kills, he dedicates a lot of time to being in the woods, and defiantly earned this buck, just like anyone else that hunts hard.
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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2011, 09:55:11 AM »
I don't think you can credit management for this buck.  :twocents:

Really?  And do you care to explain how you cannot credit their Big Game Management.  They have a good permit system and from what I know from my in-law they are very stringent on it.  Also from what I've learned from speaking with some Tribal Members from there at various meetings throughout the State they are very much involved in reporting and monitoring of harvested game due to their permit system. 

They take a very proactive role in monitoring it and from what i've listened to, heard and read it sounds like it is working wonders for them. :tup:

Sorry Meat, I started to type and then noticed you posted your comments and very well stated indeed.  Again, they have a good established game system and enforce it pretty good from what I'm told. 

All I can say is congrats to the hunter and this is one of the reasons (not the main reason for those of you that know) why I won't post any pics of any harvested animals on here (even though I've only harvest one animal this year and that's fine with me). 
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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2011, 09:57:57 AM »
I don't know where you came across the negativity, but I was just stating what I believed the tribal limits were.  Thanks for clearing up the seasons.  They are actually longer than I thought.  Don't remember muleys going through December, but I guess that's changed.  As for T, congrats to him on a great buck.  I was just hoping that his permission was granted to post his pic on a public forum.
 

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 ""This has been one of the more mild starts to winter we have had in the last 3 to 4 years, and that as you should know, since you seem to know a lot about deer management it sounds like, has a very negative impact on the deer herd as a whole.""



You've got me lost here.  I always thought severe early starts pushed the deer down lower and upped the hunter success rates, made winter grazing more difficult, was detrimental to fawn survival, and allowed predators to concentrate on smaller areas to target deer............ :dunno:


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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2011, 10:02:21 AM »
Congrats to the hunter on taking a great buck. 


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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2011, 10:06:28 AM »
I don't think you can credit management for this buck.  :twocents:

Really?  And do you care to explain how you cannot credit their Big Game Management.  They have a good permit system and from what I know from my in-law they are very stringent on it.  Also from what I've learned from speaking with some Tribal Members from there at various meetings throughout the State they are very much involved in reporting and monitoring of harvested game due to their permit system. 

They take a very proactive role in monitoring it and from what i've listened to, heard and read it sounds like it is working wonders for them. :tup:

Sorry Meat, I started to type and then noticed you posted your comments and very well stated indeed.  Again, they have a good established game system and enforce it pretty good from what I'm told. 

All I can say is congrats to the hunter and this is one of the reasons (not the main reason for those of you that know) why I won't post any pics of any harvested animals on here (even though I've only harvest one animal this year and that's fine with me).

Seriously, how is a two bucks per day (or does part of the time) season that goes from June through December providing the "good" management that led to this buck. :dunno:  I'm crediting this buck to great genetics, and living in a secure spot.

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #88 on: December 01, 2011, 10:33:49 AM »
he puts in the foot work for his kills, he dedicates a lot of time to being in the woods, and defiantly earned this buck, just like anyone else that hunts hard.
and his hard work payed off!  awesome deer!   :tup:

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Re: 42" colville tribe buck
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2011, 10:34:04 AM »
That's a damn nice buck for sure, good job to the hunter.  And to get it close enough to a road to load it up whole, bonus!  I know some people that have taken some very nice bucks right off heavy traffic roads this year, blacktail though, not mulies.  Them things know how to hide when they want to.
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