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Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« on: November 30, 2011, 01:51:48 PM »
They have draft regs our for Multi season. they are bumping up deer from 4000 to 8500 and elk from 850 to 1000. They must need to make more money.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/2011/wsr_11-23-179.pdf



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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 01:56:17 PM »
They have draft regs our for Multi season. they are bumping up deer from 4000 to 8500

 :yike:    Wow, that's a lot. They just increased it from 2000 to 4000 last year!    :dunno:

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 02:00:33 PM »
wow, that's quite an increase. Just means more people applying for eastside elk permits, at least 150 more. They should just sell the deer over the counter. :twocents:
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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 03:32:00 PM »
I personally think this is awsome.  Just because you draw the multi season tag doesn't mean you can kill more than one deer....it just gives you a longer season.  I have drawn it 3 years now and killed two does and one buck with it.  I hunt hard and for many days a year and this just allowed me more time to look for the big buck.  I too agree they should just make it an over the counter purchase.

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 04:50:15 PM »
Yep!!!!! Just what our deer herds need. More pressure. I think they are going in the wrong direction. We need some serious changes to our blacktail units.

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 05:11:15 PM »
Wonder what they're up to?  Predators on rise, herds declining, budget shrinking...oh never mind.  Last year they doubled the deer permits and raised the price for MS.

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 05:27:27 PM »
Just because they up the number, doesn't mean they are going to be selling that number. I was surprised at the number of people that put in, drew the multi season and then didn't buy the tag. I think about 2 out of 10 guys I asked actually bought the tag after being drawn (Deer). Me being one of them.

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 05:47:32 PM »
Just because they up the number, doesn't mean they are going to be selling that number. I was surprised at the number of people that put in, drew the multi season and then didn't buy the tag. I think about 2 out of 10 guys I asked actually bought the tag after being drawn (Deer). Me being one of them.

I also know of several people who drew the tag but didn't purchase it...

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 07:05:29 PM »
I personally think this is awsome.  Just because you draw the multi season tag doesn't mean you can kill more than one deer....it just gives you a longer season.  I have drawn it 3 years now and killed two does and one buck with it.  I hunt hard and for many days a year and this just allowed me more time to look for the big buck.  I too agree they should just make it an over the counter purchase.

This has been discussed many times on here, but again, more multi-season tags mean more animals killed. The fact that you are still only allowed one animal is irrelevant. If a person can hunt all the seasons, they are more likely to be successful in taking an animal. Average success rates are about 20% for deer and 5% for elk. People with the multi-season tags could easily double or triple those success rates because they have more time to hunt.


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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 07:09:21 PM »
 :yeah: That is 100% spot on right there :tup:
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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 07:10:02 PM »
I've had it with WDFW...what a bunch of money grubbing *censored*s...No consideration for the "game "populations whatsoever!
We need to clean house!!!

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 07:13:11 PM »
But at the same time, more time to hunt isn't necessarily more time hunting the same animal.  My archery, modern, muzzy units aren't the same either by choice or by regulation.  So when one ends it's not like come back next week with a different weapon.

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 07:17:08 PM »
But at the same time, more time to hunt isn't necessarily more time hunting the same animal.  My archery, modern, muzzy units aren't the same either by choice or by regulation.  So when one ends it's not like come back next week with a different weapon.


True, but also not relevant. Success rates will go up, and more animals will be killed, period.

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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 07:18:45 PM »
I don't necessarily buy into this. I can get a deer any day of the archery season where I hunt. The multi season tag this year let me hold out for a larger animal than I would have taken during the archery season which I would have hunted if I was not drawn for the multi tag.


So you're basically of the opinion that season length doesn't make a difference in harvest rates? If that was the case, they wouldn't need seasons at all. They could just open it up statewide from September 1st to December 31st, any weapon.


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Re: Draft Regs for Multi Season Permits
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 07:21:42 PM »
I don't necessarily buy into this. I can get a deer any day of the archery season where I hunt. The multi season tag this year let me hold out for a larger animal than I would have taken during the archery season which I would have hunted if I was not drawn for the multi tag.


Sorry but they stats dont lie.  Multi season tags have double the harvest success rate of general tags on deer and way over double on elk.  This has everything to do with more money and nothing to do with an excess of animals.  This is bad management IMO.



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