Harvest reports what's the point?

[KillBilly]

PA i dis agree with you premis that we must fine people to get info. I like the carrot approach that they currently use. Offer you into a drawing for a special permitts raffle. Here is why... Obviously there is a contingent of hunters that do not want to share info. They are willing to provide FALSE datta so they will not be punished. I don't know, but i would guess that those same people are not too concernted about being entered into a raffle, so they are likely not to take the time and Lie to enter... Corrupting good data is much worse that getting LOTS of data that is questionable in nature... there is a term for this in the survey world. SASL Chit At the Speed of Light. You get fast numbers that are computable and analizable but don't mean anything because it is difficult for you to assertain the truthfulness of the data.

 

Very good points Special T.  I never really thought about that before.

T  good theory but a person that reports for the carrot can and is just as likely to enter phony data as anyone else. So, real data or phony data is better than none. The only absolute is the non-reporter.  On another note, do you have any idea how many people report on time every year and WDFW still tries to charge them the $10.00? I hear about half a dozen of my fellow boeing workers that it happens to every year.

[Special T]

KillBilly, unfortunately you are wrong on this one.  Good data is priceless and contaminated data is misleading.  Smaller samples can still be VERY valuable.  Neither you or I can prove the affect of false information. I would bet you lunch that those that want to provide FALSE info are less motivated to report when not required.

I happen to think that reporting  it is mostly about the $$$. your example about your friends is an indicator.

If someone else with marketing/survey experience would chime in i think we would all value your input...

[CedarPants]

On another note, do you have any idea how many people report on time every year and WDFW still tries to charge them the $10.00? I hear about half a dozen of my fellow boeing workers that it happens to every year.

The very first year they implemented the $10 penalty, there wasn't a single hunter I personally knew that wasn't charged (myself included).  I mentioned that I had been charged even though I reported, a buddy indicated the same happened to him ... and so on and so on.  I literally could not find a single person that hadn't been charged, and everyone I asked had reported on time.

I've been hit once since then as well even though I reported everything on time

Didn't mean to get off topic, I apologize

[bobcat]

I have never paid the $10 penalty and I don't personally know anyone who has.

Just lucky I guess.   

[6x6in6]

I report every year and do so accurately.
I never get beyond the "Did you hunt" question.  NO!
I keep waiting for the system to ask me why I didn't. 

[coachcw]

the question how many days did you hunt ? whats that got do do with it . i bow hunt and was in elk every day passed a couple of shots on cows trying to put my buddy on a bull . i guess that i'm a unsucessfull hunter and there's no elk in there since  I didn't harvest huh? A better question would be how many elk did you see.

[bobcat]

the question how many days did you hunt ? whats that got do do with it . i bow hunt and was in elk every day passed a couple of shots on cows trying to put my buddy on a bull . i guess that i'm a unsucessfull hunter and there's no elk in there since  I didn't harvest huh? A better question would be how many elk did you see.

That's how they come up with the days/kill number. I find it useful in comparing different GMU's. Some may have a lower success rate, but also a lower number of days per kill. It's just one more useful bit of information that the biologists can use to look for trends in the success of hunters in the various GMU's.

Which in turn, they can use to determine whether deer and elk populations are increasing, decreasing, or staying the same.

[Special T]

They use days in the field to determine success rations for days in the feild.... So the problem is if you only spend weekend in the feild and get a deer elk each year and only spend 4 days hunting, they look at how many days they make available  and decide if they need to up or lower the number of days.
6x6x6 thats funny, probably the best way for people to report if they want to keep thier info private and not screw up the rest of the info for planning purposes.

[bigtex]

I have never paid the $10 penalty and I don't personally know anyone who has.

Just lucky I guess.   

 

[runamuk]

my kid had to because they said he didnt report his turkey tag...which I know darn well I did for him..... but they showed it unreported so you just pay them if you want to buy your license....

[bobcat]

Maybe people should be saving this when they do their reports:

Your application was successfully submitted on 12/06/2011 9:59 pm.
Your confirmation number is 1100363279.

[runamuk]

Maybe people should be saving this when they do their report:

Your application was successfully submitted on 12/06/2011 9:59 pm.
Your confirmation number is 1100363279.

for those who are organized and have a memory that works that is fabulous...for me it would be one more thing I have somewhere around here and wont find when I need it....but most people are nowhere near as scattered and chaotic as I am....

[CedarPants]

Maybe people should be saving this when they do their reports:

Your application was successfully submitted on 12/06/2011 9:59 pm.
Your confirmation number is 1100363279.

I do

[bobcat]

Maybe people should be saving this when they do their report:

Your application was successfully submitted on 12/06/2011 9:59 pm.
Your confirmation number is 1100363279.

for those who are organized and have a memory that works that is fabulous...for me it would be one more thing I have somewhere around here and wont find when I need it....but most people are nowhere near as scattered and chaotic as I am....

I just save the entire confirmation page to my desktop. I always do that but have never had a need to later prove that I did in fact submit my hunt report.

[bobcat]

I just logged back in to the hunt report page and all the confirmation numbers are listed there, along with the time and date that I submitted them, and this goes all the way back to 2006.

https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/Hunterreport