Need some encouragement

[demontang]

You know I'm kind of lucky I generally average one yote a stand by the end of season. But really I might call one in every 5 stands.

[boneaddict]

You have only been
Out twice and are discouraged,and need photos to keep you going,and worried about buying gas?      Maybe you should consider another sport.   Hunting coyotes is not cheap nor always rewarding!

I'm usually the blunt one around here.    but....this is about as straight forward as it gets.

[Arteman]

Most people are holding out on stories and pics until the permit for the yote contest gets here. You will see a lot more when it get's going. There is lots of times I have been calling and not killed anything. Over the years I am around 1 yote for every 6 stands I make. I do see them more often then that but a lot of call shy yotes and stuff can always go wrong. Plus I do miss from time to time

What permits, what yote contest, i think im going to take up predator hunting.  Prior to now I've just shot them when I've seen them, other then bobcat with dogs and shocking young dogs off yotes (trash) thats about the only small game I've hunted.  A hunting subject i know nothing about, please fill me in, thanks.

[boneaddict]

We have a very kicked back contest we do every year.   Its more for braggin rights than anything.   It was deemed we need  a permit for such fun things, so It was postponed a bit this year.  Its called Coyote Madness.   I think this is year IV

[Arteman]

We have a very kicked back contest we do every year.   Its more for braggin rights than anything.   It was deemed we need  a permit for such fun things, so It was postponed a bit this year.  Its called Coyote Madness.   I think this is year IV

I would consider this thread jacking, and sorry to the original poster, but is this something that just HW members do, a contest on the site?  Maybe I need to do a search on it.

[boneaddict]

Yes, this site only, and I wouldn't consider it thread jacking.  In fact if he wants to learn something its a thread the OP should monitor.  Lots of photos tips and stories for a couple years worth.  The current one is as we speak in the recent column to the right and the others can be found in the top 10 threads of all time on the stat page.  I believe the first contest was erased so as not to confuse people, but the last two years are there.

[boneaddict]

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,84424.msg1108025/topicseen.html#new

[Arteman]

Thanked Bone.

[carpsniperg2]

Yes I agree 100%, I don't even worry about getting up and out at the crack of dawn. Seems like until the sun is up good and warming up, I don't call crap in. If I am in a area early I will howl and see if I can get a response. If I do or not I will always come back later and still call the stand. Also a tip, keep a calling log! Write down your notes! Time of day,length of stand,temp,if you see a yote, if you kill one, etc. It will teach you a lot when you look back after a year of calling.

[Arteman]

Anyways I meant to say thanks, I checked it out and that's cool!  I started HW this year when shed hunting was the top topic, slowly trickled to the trailcam thing, and then of coarse hunting in general, well that's starting to petter out so i was thinking well back to shed antlers in a few months, but now I have this to follow, can't wait tell this gets going.  Maybe join the race next year with a little more experience.  Can't wait to get out and learn this sport.

[boneaddict]

Every coyote you kill is probably another 100 bucks out there on the range......probably a 1000 mice too, but the snakes need to eat too. 

[carpsniperg2]

Every coyote you kill is probably another 100 bucks out there on the range......probably a 1000 mice too, but the snakes need to eat too. 

Indeed and probably a ton of game birds as well!!! They are so hard on the birds

[trippledigitss]

When I first started I think I went out at least 15-20 times by myself before I even saw a ky-oat. Best thing I ever did was get with a couple of veterans who told me good place to go and one of them also took me out with him*. (BIGINNER & PredatorPro*) One weekend with hunting with him and/or having their help and I had my 1st dog. Then after that it seemed I went on a killing spree, I got one almost every time out for awhile. (and now I have TWO to my name...)  But I went on a dry spell for awhile too. Just keep at it, you learn something every time out, even if you dont call one in, like they say 'practice makes perfect' right? ( I keep telling my wife this but I still run into resistance with her....  ) I also watched alot of hunting shows like Predator Quest, Calling All Coyotes with Randy Anderson and read alot here and elsewhere. I'm still a rookie but I'd say the biggest thing is wind and movement is second.  And I swear by my decoy ( I cuss him up & down if I dont get something!  )  I dont hunt without it! Good luck dude, keep at it!

[TheChad23]

Thanks for the encouragement. I've had the best at earlier times so maybe I shouldn't give up so quickly and stay out longer and I might see something. Thanks for the tips guys.

[Arteman]

The only thing I do know about varmints has to do with bobcats from when I been dog hunting.  If you see a bobcat in a spot it will be there again, they live and hunt in the same small areas their whole life, the only exception is a Tom cat during breeding season out on the prowl for females.  Dog hunting we would strike the same cats in the exact same spots almost daily, next strike might be a few hundred yards up or down the road from the previous, if it was to cold to get it jumped and caught then we would call them addresses, you then pattern them so as if you was getting a lot of cold strikes in the mornings you could come back and try that cat in the evenings for a warmer track.  we know the cats hunt the same pattern because weeks apart you would cold trail the same cat down the same exact drainages almost foot for foot according to gps tracking collars.  You can even tree them, let them go, and catch them again another day to train young dogs.  A good houndsmen doesn't kill everything he puts up, just that much farther he would have to go next time, as it doesn't take much to clean out an area.  I know some only kill Toms.  My whole point is that this year boot hunting I have seen 3 cats in Washington, I know they will be in the same spots if i want to try calling them in, I'll call those addresses.  Don't know about Washington, but if I was to buy an Oregon license this year I do know a lot of addresses down there where I would like to try calling.  Problem is I just need to learn the calling part now.