Contract killing of bears

[plottwalker]

first off, the more people in there, the more outlaws they would have to deal with, if its killing game out of season, or litering, or just messing around making 4x4 trails. i think they would rather have 4 guys do what 300 may do, and know who it is thats on THIER property,plus they get to make any profit off the bear as they please while we make no profit.
hell we have to have a tag to hunt and dont get to tag and keep nothing.
alot of hunters dont see the big picture, some dont want the hound dogers in the woods disturbing them, but look at how many lion and bear there are now, and the deer and elk population that most hunters go after are going down hill. yet when we lost hound season, very few cared, or care now...
as for snares and guys getting paid to use them, i dont have any info on that.our foresters dont use them. but in some situations i could see snaring. dont know about needing to pay some one for the service though.

to arteman, they still do find some damage as they come across it, but we also look alot and normally find the majority of it.

[summit creek]

I know that ever since the hound / baiting ban went into effect the timber companies and state have contracted out for lethal removal of bears. Any idea how many bears are killed by contract in the state each year?
Thanks,
Goshawk

not sure about state wide i know in 2010 they took around 30 in the mineral area

[CementFinisher]

We need to nuke this topic. don't need to bring anymore attention to it, no need for trolls seeing this and making it an issue. Let the houndsmen have this so they may continue their sport and help our timber companys stay healthy and profitable. just my two 

[Goshawk]

I was mostly thinking about the folks who are paid to set snares for bears, not so much the paid hound folks.

Again, my point is, if a timber lands owner is having a bear problem then open the gates and let all the bear hunters in. That's what the hunting seasons are for, not snaring, baiting, loaning keys out to gated areas for "coyote and coon hunters" or hired bear hunters.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if come spring bear season the drawing winners showed up at some of the pay to enter gates then refused to pay for access. If they all refused the timber company would either have to open the gates for free or put up with the damage.

I think that hunters as a group have a lot more power than they realize to influence company policies and state seasons, IF we would all stick together like a guild or union.

Just my .02 worth...

If only all trespassers were responsible, ethical, and respectful. Sadly, I suspect the damage caused by the small percentage of offenders, and harvest #s by non-professionals given an option, don't make it an attrative offer. That's just off my noggin and my .02. Doesn't mean I like it. 

The hound hunters already got enough taken away from them in this state, now you want to take this?  We have are seasons to hunt, let them have this, don't take this away also.  Come on guys.

No.
I'm saying it should be equal access to all hunters; hound, stalking or bait.
I'm a little surprised that's such a radical concept or offensive to some; sorry...

[Humptulips]

I'm a little late to this topic.
 I will tell you USDA and WFPA do snare bears and they get paid, not by the state but by the timber companies.
I believe they can do this on public land if there is a threat to human health and safety. Not likely to have that happen very often but the possiblity is there.
How much do they get paid? I know of one small land owner that had the USDA in snaring bear last spring. He told me it cost $500/bear.
 Certain WCOs can snare bear also for hire but their numbers are few, probably no more then about three in the state. I also know of one OR company that snares bear in WA.
There was talk of having a training class for WCOs to qualify more for snaring but it has not materialized. Currently only those who have been permitted in the past can get snaring permits. I think this was brought up because some timber companies didn't want to have the hound men anymore but like I said it never happened. I think the threat of it is still there if the timber companies push for it.

[summit creek]

I know that ever since the hound / baiting ban went into effect the timber companies and state have contracted out for lethal removal of bears. Any idea how many bears are killed by contract in the state each year?
Thanks,
Goshawk

ull probaly never find the real answer but i know one of the hound hunters that has a contract to tree and kill bears hes from chehalis and i run into him 2 or 3 times a year behind my house in the storm king unit of course hes driving and im walking hes a real cool dude anyway he tells me one year he took 12 behind my house in the spring of 09 but behind my house theres only about 25 miles of roads and they all dead end but i think he hunts all over lewis and cowlitz countiesand get this he gets no money and every bear goes to the game dept whole he dont even get a claw.

[hornhunter1987]

bill hulet killed a bunch of bears in the early 1900's. supposedly more than anyone. there is a book about him called "born under a stump". he was leased out by rayonier to hunt with his hounds. its a pretty good read. alot of history about western washington. he lived in aberdeen.