Contract killing of bears

[Goshawk]

I know that ever since the hound / baiting ban went into effect the timber companies and state have contracted out for lethal removal of bears. Any idea how many bears are killed by contract in the state each year?
Thanks,
Goshawk

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I am not sure, but according to D. Mortanetti (sp) the fur-bearer and predator guy with the WDFW, he has been severely reducing "depredation permits" unless they attempt to work with him on the Spring "damage control hunts", but as we all are aware, what happens behind closed and locked gates on private property, and between the WDFW and major timber companies, and "other" private interest is not always disclosed to the public.
I have not talked to him since drawing my spring permit 2 years ago, so take it with a grain of salt...

[Knocker of rocks]

Any idea how many bears are killed by contract in the state each year?

Some questions are best left un-asked

[Knocker of rocks]

And sometimes these "bears" just disapear.  You know, move to Italy or go on witness protection

[Arteman]

Probably depends on the amount of bear damage, I bet its a lot though.  I use to hunt up in Forks Wa for a timber co, we was filling permits as fast as they could hand them out. Seems they had no end to them, place was thick with bear though.  Took longer to get the bear to the truck then I did to get another one started.

[billythekidrock]

I know that ever since the hound / baiting ban went into effect the timber companies and state have contracted out for lethal removal of bears. Any idea how many bears are killed by contract in the state each year?
Thanks,
Goshawk

I posted this awhile back.

I went back through the old harvest reports and WDFW does keep track...if the reports given to them are legit.

They used to post the numbers in the harvest reports (but don't anymore) and in some BMU they would kill 40-80 a year. That is 40-80 bears a year in multiple BMU reported but I am sure more are killed than that.

[summit creek]

i live in the stormking unit and know in 09 they took 16 i know of just behind my house

[D-Rock425]

I don't know any numbers but I know some master hunters are starting to bait and kill bears now.

[Goshawk]

I guess my main gripe is that if a timber company is having problems with bears, they should have to open up their access for paying hunters before being allowed to have the state hire and pay for a professional trapper / hunter to kill them. That's OUR tax dollars being spent to hire someone to bear hunt on land that is closed to the public, yet enjoys a HUGE property tax break.
Just don't seem right...

PS. I'm a little lost as to how the posted pictures of people have something to do with bear hunting?

[bearbaito6]

Most are not being paid, If they are it's not YOUR tax dollars. It would be Timber Co. money. They have the right to protect there property and investments. And are doing so in the most effective way. There are plenty of bear for everyone. And long enough seasons.

[mtman]

In the book black bear hunting by Richard p. Smith. It tells about a man named dee demoss, That killed over 2000 black bears. Most were killed in washington while working for timber companys in a 35 year period.

[Knocker of rocks]

PS. I'm a little lost as to how the posted pictures of people have something to do with bear hunting?

It was a joke.  You know, all the talk of contract killing, so I put in some pictures of Tony Soprano and his crew, Paulie Walnuts and Sil.

They're in the mafia, and know a thing or two about contract killing

[Hi-Liter]

You know I can't comment too much on this. But, a while back I had a person contact me about the DFW contacted him and PAYING him to tree bears for removal. Don't know if it was true or not, but seemed a little odd.

[gottatree]

Yes, are tax dollars do pay to remove problem bears and cougars. I have a couple of check stubs to prove it. I have worked with the timber companies, WDFW and DNR to remove animals. I quit doing this two years ago due to some issues i didn't think where right. We would hunt for about six weeks and remove 5-6 bears a week.

[Hi-Liter]

Gotta tree, I think its good you quit doing it, hire gun to kill. They should open it up for more for people to hunt bears cougars, etc?  What is interesting about this person that I mentioned above, is that I discussed this situation with a game warder earlier this year, and he denied that any animal in this state (cougar, bear etc.) is ever treed by hired gun/hounds on their orders and killed.