Hunter backlash begins over WA wolf plan

[turkeyfeather]

Great article! The area I hunt in Eastern Washington is so overrun with black bears that the thought of another predator running around may actually make me go hunt in Idaho. I don't want to pay for those out of state tags but it may be the better option. We have to find a way to put a stop to this.

[Dave Workman]

Great article! The area I hunt in Eastern Washington is so overrun with black bears that the thought of another predator running around may actually make me go hunt in Idaho. I don't want to pay for those out of state tags but it may be the better option. We have to find a way to put a stop to this.

I already told you how to put a stop to this.
Vote Republican in 2012...for governor and your state legislator.  The Teamsters may tell you to vote Democrat and they'll probably endorse Inslee for governor.  Ignore them.

We need to change the political power in Olympia and put someone in the governor's office who will make sound, sane appointments to the Commission. It's that simple.

[wence5]

Great article! The area I hunt in Eastern Washington is so overrun with black bears that the thought of another predator running around may actually make me go hunt in Idaho. I don't want to pay for those out of state tags but it may be the better option. We have to find a way to put a stop to this.

I already told you how to put a stop to this.
Vote Republican in 2012...for governor and your state legislator.  The Teamsters may tell you to vote Democrat and they'll probably endorse Inslee for governor.  Ignore them.

 

We need to change the political power in Olympia and put someone in the governor's office who will make sound, sane appointments to the Commission. It's that simple.

  to the 100th power!

No offence to anyone on here that is a proud union member, but that has always bothered me, my union telling me to go vote for the Democrat because he has my best interest at heart. BUT HE WANTS MY GUNS THOUGH! Never mind that, just vote how you are told, it's for your own good......................
Well, see what we got?
Guess that's why I don't belong to a union any longer.

[wence5]

Good link.  Thanks Dave.  Now, who do we have to boot out of office to get this shut down and killed?  Am sick of taking it in the shorts for every animal/tree hugger that has a fantasy about wolves, and bears, and cougars and whatever else.....

Maybe we need an "Occupy WDFW Offices" protest started...... heck, the other ones got national exposure...   

HB:

It's a bit late to get it killed but (and some folks here may not like this but here goes)...the ONLY way to bring some kind of sanity to this is to change governors and the political party of the governor.

TRANSLATION: In November 2012...vote Republican, period, end of story. I don't care if your daddy and granddaddy and momma voted Democrat, and your union tells you to vote Democrat...vote Republican. Change the course of government from the top down.  That is the ONLY way you are going to start cleaning up this mess. 

The governor appoints the wildlife commissioners. Get a governor in office who will appoint people to the commission who actually hunt deer and elk, and that means every seat on the commission, find a new wildlife director and do a performance audit on the WDFW...and, as I've said on other threads, including this one:
 
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,87738.165.html

we need to send some wolf advocates packing.

And lastly...we need someone who will take the Butch Otter approach:  Send a letter to the Interior Secretary and tell him point blank: My game cops will not respond to wolf complaints.  My state will not investigate wolf problems.

NOW UNDERSTAND this:  I don't have a desire to wipe out wolves.  But this plan for 15 breeding pairs is somebody's wet dream. They didn't, far as I can remember, suggest that many for Montana or Idaho IIRC. 

We've got 5 confirmed packs.  We need to amend the wolf management plan to set that as the goal. Five packs, anywhere in the state. The we manage the damn things ourselves and tell the feds to pound sand.

Anyone in the agency who doesn't like that..McDonald's is hiring. Expect lawsuits. Fine. We'll take money out of the DSHS budget, or maybe the Supt. of Public Instruction's budget, and move it to the Attorney General's office. 

Work with the Colvilles on this one. Identify the problem and turn them and their attorneys loose. This is an issue we can work with the tribes to resolve to our satisfaction and to the benefit of the elk and deer herds.

But that's just me talking.

And I haven't yet decided to run for Governor, although it's been suggested ...

All VERY good points Dave. You're spot on.
As for the Governors house, you got my vote! 

[BOWHUNTER45]

hot damn man .. now we may be getting somewhere ....Thats it.... everyone write a letter to those ( whoever holes) and tell them as a paying sportsmen of Washington State we will not support such BS to interduce wolves into Washington ...Well whatever or should I say more wolves into Washington State !!!

[Dhoey07]

Just remember to do the right thing when you see a wolf

[pianoman9701]

I have already sent letters an emails to all of the comissioners telling them what I thought, and asking them to step down.  I hope more people are doing the same thing.

I believe it's too late for letters to the commissioners. The people that you need to write now are your legislators. Find the names and email addresses of your WA state congress here:  http://apps.leg.wa.gov/districtfinder/default.aspx. Tell your representative that our wildlife commission is reversing our (hunters') incredible conservation successes of the last 100+ years by signing off on this irresponsible program.

In addition, Washington for Wildlife is pushing to get answers to hunting and 2nd amendment questions from both gubernatorial candidates so that we can make sure that hunters have the information to vote for the candidate who will appoint pro-hunting commissioners and director for our WDFW.  We already know that Rep Inslee (Democratic candidate for governor) has formerly received an "F" grade from the NRA. If and when the candidates respond to our questions, We'll post them in HuntWA.

[Jerbear]

I have said it before, and I'll say it again, and again.  We need to elect the commission.  Take the politics out of it.  We are almost 10,000 strong.  Who can be our spokesman, and write a letter to all concerned and tell them  we are tired of NOT being listened to.  We need to do something and not be keyboard warriors.  How many of the 10,000 would be willing to march on Olympia to get their attention.The sportsman clubs throughout the state back in the 50's used to do just that.  I will step down off the soap box now.

[D-Rock425]

I'll be there.  Tell me when.

[rebal69972]

its to late for letters and talking to hasnt worked for a while    the only thing the govenment, wdfw and commissioner know is $$$$ when they go belly up because no one is buying tags then they will listen but by then the wolves will have takin over and there will be no elk 

this will be the last year my family and i buy tags in WA i know it isnt much but its what i can do

[Bigshooter]

I have already sent letters an emails to all of the comissioners telling them what I thought, and asking them to step down.  I hope more people are doing the same thing.

I believe it's too late for letters to the commissioners. The people that you need to write now are your legislators. Find the names and email addresses of your WA state congress here:  http://apps.leg.wa.gov/districtfinder/default.aspx. Tell your representative that our wildlife commission is reversing our (hunters') incredible conservation successes of the last 100+ years by signing off on this irresponsible program.

In addition, Washington for Wildlife is pushing to get answers to hunting and 2nd amendment questions from both gubernatorial candidates so that we can make sure that hunters have the information to vote for the candidate who will appoint pro-hunting commissioners and director for our WDFW.  We already know that Rep Inslee (Democratic candidate for governor) has formerly received and "F" grade from the NRA. If and when the candidates respond to our questions, We'll post them in HuntWA.

Only the Governor can appoint a commissioner.  To I believe a 6 year term.  Last time I looked they were looking for people to fill a couple commissioner seats.  I think all you have to do is apply.

[Bigshooter]

If anyone wants to be a commissioner check out the link.


http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/

[Dave Workman]

I have said it before, and I'll say it again, and again.  We need to elect the commission.  Take the politics out of it. 

Do you realize what you just said?

Elect the commission.  Take the politics out of it.

Just what do you think an election is all about? If the commissioners run, they will be voted on by everybody...and the Seattle clowns will vote for the most far left, anti-hunting, wolf-hugging pack of fools on the landscape.

Elect the right governor, put the other party in charge, get the right nominees for the commission, change the agency back to the GAME Department, and put sportsmen first.

[CedarPants]

I have said it before, and I'll say it again, and again.  We need to elect the commission.  Take the politics out of it. 

Do you realize what you just said?

Elect the commission.  Take the politics out of it.

Just what do you think an election is all about? If the commissioners run, they will be voted on by everybody...and the Seattle clowns will vote for the most far left, anti-hunting, wolf-hugging pack of fools on the landscape.

Elect the right governor, put the other party in charge, get the right nominees for the commission, change the agency back to the GAME Department, and put sportsmen first.

 

As much as I would like to think voting for the Director and Commissioners would make us feel like we had a say in the matter - in the end I believe it would bite us in the rear.  Anti-hunting groups would absolutely JUMP at the opportunity to to run a candidate of theirs for these positions, and history at the polls has shown we will be out voted.

[bearpaw]

I have said it before, and I'll say it again, and again.  We need to elect the commission.  Take the politics out of it. 

Do you realize what you just said?

Elect the commission.  Take the politics out of it.

Just what do you think an election is all about? If the commissioners run, they will be voted on by everybody...and the Seattle clowns will vote for the most far left, anti-hunting, wolf-hugging pack of fools on the landscape.

Elect the right governor, put the other party in charge, get the right nominees for the commission, change the agency back to the GAME Department, and put sportsmen first.

We need a citizen commission, but you are exactly right, we do not want the commission elected, they will all be wolf lovers voted in by 3 counties.

We've got 5 confirmed packs.  We need to amend the wolf management plan to set that as the goal. Five packs, anywhere in the state. The we manage the damn things ourselves and tell the feds to pound sand.

Here's a big problem, not a 1 of these packs meets the requirements for having pups 3 consecutive years. We have 0 confirmed bp's in Washington even though we have more than 100 wolves in the state. And the even bigger problem is that WDFW does not have the experienced personnel to confirm 15 bp's. We will have 1000 wolves by the time they confirm 15 bp's for 3 consecutive years. 

To put it bluntly, the wolf plan forces us to rely on an agency that cannot even properly respond to the bear and cougar complaints. How will they ever confirm 15 bp's when the trapper in NE WA has to quit trapping one area to travel over to another area and then can't find the wolves where he goes.