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Offline Special T

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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #180 on: December 08, 2011, 05:05:09 PM »
The dead voters provided the swing the first time!  :chuckle:
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #181 on: December 08, 2011, 05:15:24 PM »
Maybe I am dumb, but I can't find nothing on that WFW forum.  :dunno:
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #182 on: December 08, 2011, 05:31:58 PM »
I have sent e-mails to my senator and both reps from my district requesting a reply. We will see what the response will be.
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #183 on: December 08, 2011, 07:07:57 PM »
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Maybe I am dumb, but I can't find nothing on that WFW forum.

because all the discussion is here..... :(
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #184 on: December 09, 2011, 11:39:51 AM »
I think Rob will keep a low profile on this kind of stuff before an election. I think the best we can hope for is to find someone with some experience about his knowledge/ positions...  This upcoming election is going to be about $$$. How to get it, spend it, and save it. Everything else is on the side. If i were a republican in this state i would side step every issue except financial ones... Getting people back to work. After i was elected i might adress the issue but not beforehand... There are enough bunny huggers that might not like a pro hunter/fishermen.  :twocents:

I agree  with Special T. Rob is going to maintain a low profile on this issue.
We need to get him into office first. He will go in and clean house of most of the agency directors. In fact he may also replace certain members of the Commission as they are appointed by the Governor.

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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #185 on: December 09, 2011, 11:59:58 AM »
count me and my son in let me know the date. tired of them not listening to the sportsman. time to put the pressure on them for a change at the top!
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #186 on: December 09, 2011, 12:26:52 PM »
I think Rob will keep a low profile on this kind of stuff before an election. I think the best we can hope for is to find someone with some experience about his knowledge/ positions...  This upcoming election is going to be about $$$. How to get it, spend it, and save it. Everything else is on the side. If i were a republican in this state i would side step every issue except financial ones... Getting people back to work. After i was elected i might adress the issue but not beforehand... There are enough bunny huggers that might not like a pro hunter/fishermen.  :twocents:

I agree  with Special T. Rob is going to maintain a low profile on this issue.
We need to get him into office first. He will go in and clean house of most of the agency directors. In fact he may also replace certain members of the Commission as they are appointed by the Governor.

He might be foolish to say he supports hunting in a state that has less than 10% hunters.... :dunno:

I heard a rumour that he at least shoots trap, that puts him ahead of the competiton in my book.  :twocents:
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #187 on: December 09, 2011, 05:19:34 PM »
I have given some thought to our mission and wanted to share my suggested version.

Mission
To share with the citizens of Washington how and where the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife has ignored science and scientific data. To share with them how our neighboring states are now suffering from an irresponsible wolf recovery plan. And to share with them how the Departments acceptance of this irresponsible and unmanageable Recovery Plan will likely have an additive effect on prey species in many areas resulting in further declines of prey species and will result in the ultimate decline of predators as a result. We want the conservationists, the Outdoorsmen, the Ranchers, the Farmers, the Cattlemen, the Hunters, as well as the viewers and listeners of this state to tell our government that the WDFW has become disconnected from the citizens of Washington, whom by the way were the original conservationists of this State. The Department of Fish and Wildlife has forgotten the people who have paid the Departments bills through their license and tag purchases, and have participated in the animal, fish, and conservation recovery efforts in the past and present and have made our wildlife flourish. These Citizens are the true Conservationists and Wildlife Managers of the State of Washington.
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #188 on: December 09, 2011, 05:30:53 PM »
Kill billy i think your on the right track... Normally when i talk to people and discuss how the WDFW has not payed attention to science it get approval. If i were having a discussion with anyone i would be inclined to talk about the lack of ANY predator management in this state... That leaves you many options in a discussion, and several examples of how the WDFW is not using good science for its management.
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #189 on: December 09, 2011, 06:21:00 PM »
Trust me when I say legislators are not ignoring you, they are not hearing from you....in significant numbers! Quick everyone reading this name your 3 legislators and if you can name them have you asked for an appointment in Olympia during the upcoming session?

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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #190 on: December 09, 2011, 06:58:06 PM »
Senator Mike Carrell has responded to my e-mail by personally calling me to discuss this issue. We are currently playing phone tag but we will talk this weekend and I will let you know what comes of this.
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #191 on: December 09, 2011, 09:57:56 PM »
Just spoke with Senator Carrell for about an hour on this and other issues. He was very interested in the issue involving wolves and with the appointment of Jay Kehne. He has promised he will look into Kehnes' position with the wolf reintroduction plan. Unfortunately he has also stated to me that I am the only person from his district (28th) that has contacted him on this issue. We need numbers in all districts. One or two people from each district will not cut it. I have also told him to expect more info with links to provide numbers and statistics from me , and he is willing to look these over. Please e-mail your senators and representatives to further this cause. One thing he did tell me is that he does not do well with form type copied letters from people. So stating things in your own words will probably help. I told him the e-mail I sent was actually written by someone else,(pianoman), but being the first to send it he is not looking at as a form type letter. I really got the feeling he is genuine on this and hopefully he will get more e-mails from people in this district.
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #192 on: December 10, 2011, 08:34:35 PM »
Just like a couple of the current Commissioners, nothing you know or think about him will dictate how he will vote. I was dead positive that at least 2 of the current Commissioners would vote no. I would rather have lost to a 3 yes 2 no vote than see the folks I thought had good sense fold and vote yes. They just had no guts to stand up for what is right. Hells bells folks Kehnes might turn out to be the best yet.
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #193 on: December 10, 2011, 09:11:37 PM »
Killbilly,I agree with your last statement ,you never know until they are tested.besides that I agree with the guy for the most part. No way to agree on everything with any possible commission member.
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Re: Protest WDFW Wolf Plan in Olympia
« Reply #194 on: December 11, 2011, 09:34:44 AM »
Killbilly,I agree with your last statement ,you never know until they are tested.besides that I agree with the guy for the most part. No way to agree on everything with any possible commission member.

And I forgot to mention that we do need Diversity on the Commission. 

We do however have a much bigger fish to fry..

We need to demand that the Department DETAIL and SHARE their plan to Manage the Wolves. The details should include: Funding, Personell numbers, methods of trapping and collaring, methods of tracking, etc.

If they can't produce the above and more then they have no business claiming to have a Wolf Plan at all.

What are the numbers going to look like whhen they do come up with a half/ass plan. This is a monumental task they are facing and I'll bet they are sitting on their asses smiling smugly still.
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