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Offline pianoman9701

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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2011, 10:29:22 AM »
This doesn't sound bad pianoman, but we need to use the anti's language. Makes it harder to for them to fight us that way.

Propose, please. And, as Bearpaw suggested, replace "commission" with "WDFW".
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2011, 10:32:39 AM »
Dale, you are right about the WDFW......And believe me, they are a "target" as well! But so is the commission! They are supposed to listen to us.....they didn't....AGAIN!
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2011, 10:36:17 AM »
Would the RMEF be of any help?

Seems on the wolf issue though, they are like the pu$$y whipped husband with its tail between its legs.....

Of  course they also seem to like to cater to the money crowd, not the average hunter..
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2011, 10:38:47 AM »
We will enlist the help of any organization that will give it freely, including the RMEF, USSA, NRA, whomever will step up.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2011, 10:41:00 AM »
I  am in, whether we are at the gov door step or at the wdfw doors you will have my support

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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2011, 10:41:23 AM »
We need to get the tribes involved heavily!  The Colvilles would be the first place to start.  With Plat and Coastal we should be able to get help from others as well.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2011, 10:42:41 AM »
WDFW are our problem now.  Those whole in DEPT IGNORED ALL OUR EMAILS, LETTERS whole the times thur four years.   :bash:  They never even WILLING NEGOTIATING with us after they read our letter.   :bash:

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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2011, 10:45:41 AM »
i didnt realize this was aimed at just the commission. i believe it should include the wdfw & the gov also & stated as so. they are all in the pool so lets throw water on the whole bunch.

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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2011, 10:46:31 AM »
my family and myself are in. i will help with what i can
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2011, 10:47:31 AM »
Count me in, will do all I can.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2011, 10:48:40 AM »
Do we have anyone who owns a print shop who'd give us a break on flyers and/or posters?
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2011, 10:49:50 AM »
Considering who appoints the commission and the political demographics of Washington, we have a pretty good commission. They are handed many recommendations by the WDFW like this wolf plan and maybe they could do better at times, but they could do much worse.

The commission could have said, "We don't think 15 BPO's are enough, let's have 25 BP's."

I think you need to look at where this plan came from in the WDFW. We need to attack WDFW and insist they use up to date science that's coming out of ID/MT/WY the last couple years and ask them to quit using the disney science used for the sales pitch for introduction.

I don't solely blame the director yet, he is using info provided to him by the endangered species division. I think he may honestly believe there are only 30 wolves in Washington and that we need 15 BP's for wolves to survive. But if he is a responsible manager and he is shown that their disney science may be off base, then he should seek the facts and clean out the personnel who are misleading wolf management.  Maybe I should be more critical of him but I think he is most likely relying on his suposed "wolf experts" who in reality are "defenders of wildlife" propagandists.  :twocents:

I think we need to blame the WDFW directly as the primary reason for such a poor plan and we need to criticize the commission for not being more critical of the poor science being put forth by the WDFW and for not sending them back to the drawing board. :twocents:
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2011, 10:50:26 AM »
i didnt realize this was aimed at just the commission. i believe it should include the wdfw & the gov also & stated as so. they are all in the pool so lets throw water on the whole bunch.

This is only in the infancy stages. We haven't settled on a target, on a mission, on the committees we'll need, on how to raise the money necessary, or on who to bring in to help. Keep making specific suggestions.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2011, 10:55:02 AM »
I guess I would ask first, do we try to get together regionally or??? Do we get volunteers as reps from each region to pow wow with others? Is this the place to start?
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2011, 10:56:52 AM »
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