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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2011, 10:58:47 AM »
I guess I would ask first, do we try to get together regionally or??? Do we get volunteers as reps from each region to pow wow with others? Is this the place to start?

Good question. I'd say that we can do most of the work by teleconference or Skype without travel. I propose that we get a volunteer from each of the WDFW Regions to act as regional coordinators - 6 total. Each of them would enlist help from their area. Let's start with that.

Please let me know by posting if you'll be the coordinator for your WDFW region 1-6.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2011, 11:02:53 AM »
To bring sportsmen and women together from all over WA to protest the irresponsible Wolf Program that the Wildlife Commission has pushed through. Also to tell the governor that we want a wildlife commission who represents the people who pay most of the bills and who have done the most for wildlife in this state, the hunters and fishers of WA.

To bring sportsmen and women together from all over WA to protest the irresponsible and unethical programs that the Wildlife Commission has adopted. To inform the state government that we want a wildlife commission who represents the people who pay for our wildlife conservation, the hunters and fishers of WA.

To educate the people of this fine state of the uninformed decisions made that will slaughter the native plants and animals of washington. To eliminate the anti-wildlife mentality that is ruining our most precious resources.

I'm not good at coming up with stuff on my own like this. Much better at tweaking and analyzing.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2011, 11:06:54 AM »
I guess I would ask first, do we try to get together regionally or??? Do we get volunteers as reps from each region to pow wow with others? Is this the place to start?

Good question. I'd say that we can do most of the work by teleconference or Skype without travel. I propose that we get a volunteer from each of the WDFW Regions to act as regional coordinators - 6 total. Each of them would enlist help from their area. Let's start with that.

Please let me know by posting if you'll be the coordinator for your WDFW region 1-6.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2011, 11:09:38 AM »
Maybe someone else has some insight on specifically who the enemy is?

I think some people are unhappy with the commission because they approved the 4pt rule in two whitetail units, or because they did or didn't do something else. That was an issue that many of us, myself included, had supported.

My advice is this effort needs to be totally focussed on the wolf issue, something we all agree on. If we allow other issues to become involved it will cause us to argue amoungst ourselves and we'll be fewer in numbers and be far less effective. :twocents:

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Good question. I'd say that we can do most of the work by teleconference or Skype without travel. I propose that we get a volunteer from each of the WDFW Regions to act as regional coordinators - 6 total. Each of them would enlist help from their area. Let's start with that.

Please let me know by posting if you'll be the coordinator for your WDFW region 1-6.


WFW already has a members-only forum and there are members-only boards on this forum where you can organize.   :dunno:
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2011, 11:09:54 AM »
Or is this a mission to help get WFW rolling and use people already in place there instead of a whole new "group"?

Sorry Dale, you beat me to it.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2011, 11:11:56 AM »
Maybe someone else has some insight on specifically who the enemy is?

I think some people are unhappy with the commission because they approved the 4pt rule in two whitetail units, or because they did or didn't do something else. That was an issue that many of us, myself included, had supported.

My advice is this effort needs to be totally focussed on the wolf issue, something we all agree on. If we allow other issues to become involved it will cause us to argue amoungst ourselves and we'll be fewer in numbers and be far less effective. :twocents:

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Good question. I'd say that we can do most of the work by teleconference or Skype without travel. I propose that we get a volunteer from each of the WDFW Regions to act as regional coordinators - 6 total. Each of them would enlist help from their area. Let's start with that.

Please let me know by posting if you'll be the coordinator for your WDFW region 1-6.


WFW already has a members-only forum and there are members-only boards on this forum where you can organize.   :dunno:

My intention is that this protest will be about the wolf issue specifically, and the disconnect of the WDFW from our state's sportsmen and women in general. Does anyone disagree with this statement?
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2011, 11:15:58 AM »
I took out the word wolf so it wouldn't be a target easily identified by the anti's until later. Feel free to use any of my words any way you want.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2011, 11:19:20 AM »
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My intention is that this protest will be about the wolf issue specifically, and the disconnect of the WDFW from our state's sportsmen and women in general. Does anyone disagree with this statement?

I think that's a good route to go, keep it simple and direct....  :tup:
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2011, 11:21:39 AM »
Maybe someone else has some insight on specifically who the enemy is?

I think some people are unhappy with the commission because they approved the 4pt rule in two whitetail units, or because they did or didn't do something else. That was an issue that many of us, myself included, had supported.

My advice is this effort needs to be totally focussed on the wolf issue, something we all agree on. If we allow other issues to become involved it will cause us to argue amoungst ourselves and we'll be fewer in numbers and be far less effective. :twocents:

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Good question. I'd say that we can do most of the work by teleconference or Skype without travel. I propose that we get a volunteer from each of the WDFW Regions to act as regional coordinators - 6 total. Each of them would enlist help from their area. Let's start with that.

Please let me know by posting if you'll be the coordinator for your WDFW region 1-6.


WFW already has a members-only forum and there are members-only boards on this forum where you can organize.   :dunno:

The organization of this protest is to include anyone who wants to participate. If we use the WFW to organize, would everyone need to become a member of the WFW? Some may not want to join and yet would still want to participate in the protest.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2011, 11:22:18 AM »
I think perhaps this issue is far more political than many of us realize.......Like I told the Director in my e-mail to him regarding this issue.....you're nothing but the delivery boy.....and this I believe to be completely true.  He is guilty of allowing this to happen by accepting his role.

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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2011, 11:29:53 AM »
Maybe someone else has some insight on specifically who the enemy is?

I think some people are unhappy with the commission because they approved the 4pt rule in two whitetail units, or because they did or didn't do something else. That was an issue that many of us, myself included, had supported.

My advice is this effort needs to be totally focussed on the wolf issue, something we all agree on. If we allow other issues to become involved it will cause us to argue amoungst ourselves and we'll be fewer in numbers and be far less effective. :twocents:

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Good question. I'd say that we can do most of the work by teleconference or Skype without travel. I propose that we get a volunteer from each of the WDFW Regions to act as regional coordinators - 6 total. Each of them would enlist help from their area. Let's start with that.

Please let me know by posting if you'll be the coordinator for your WDFW region 1-6.


WFW already has a members-only forum and there are members-only boards on this forum where you can organize.   :dunno:

The organization of this protest is to include anyone who wants to participate. If we use the WFW to organize, would everyone need to become a member of the WFW? Some may not want to join and yet would still want to participate in the protest.

Send a message to Killbilly.. he can answer that better than anyone.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2011, 11:30:39 AM »
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My intention is that this protest will be about the wolf issue specifically, and the disconnect of the WDFW from our state's sportsmen and women in general. Does anyone disagree with this statement?

I think that's a good route to go, keep it simple and direct....  :tup:

 :yeah: :yeah: :tup:
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2011, 11:32:33 AM »
How about this Mission:

Protest Mission (only a submission)

To show the people of WA that the WDFW has adopted an irresponsible wolf recovery plan, not based on science and the experience of other states who have previously adopted wolf recovery plans, and to tell our government the WDFW has become disconnected from the sportsmen and women of WA. That in favor of animal rights extremists, the WDFW has forgotten the people who have paid the WDFW's bills through their license purchases, and have participated in the animal recovery and conservation efforts that have made our wildlife flourish, the hunters and fishers of WA.
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2011, 11:34:08 AM »
Maybe someone else has some insight on specifically who the enemy is?

I think some people are unhappy with the commission because they approved the 4pt rule in two whitetail units, or because they did or didn't do something else. That was an issue that many of us, myself included, had supported.

My advice is this effort needs to be totally focussed on the wolf issue, something we all agree on. If we allow other issues to become involved it will cause us to argue amoungst ourselves and we'll be fewer in numbers and be far less effective. :twocents:

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Good question. I'd say that we can do most of the work by teleconference or Skype without travel. I propose that we get a volunteer from each of the WDFW Regions to act as regional coordinators - 6 total. Each of them would enlist help from their area. Let's start with that.

Please let me know by posting if you'll be the coordinator for your WDFW region 1-6.


WFW already has a members-only forum and there are members-only boards on this forum where you can organize.   :dunno:

My problem with the commission is that they approved the 4 pnt APR without any science, while ignoring the WDFW biologists.  If they can ignore the bios in that case why can’t they choose to ignore the WDFW in the wolf case?
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Re: Protest Wildlife Commission at Governor's Mansion. 4/1/12?
« Reply #59 on: December 07, 2011, 11:39:41 AM »
It is a matter of what best serves the political end game.  :twocents:
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