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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 08:24:42 AM »
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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 08:31:25 AM »
Not traditional currently, compound and release. Voted no.
More then likely the 10% that opposed it are all the traditional archers.  They always oppose anything to do with archery hunting that is new.

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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 02:46:57 PM »
I voted in the servey and I voted that I didn't care whether they were legal or not. They don't help in any way other than seeing your point of impact and finding your arrow in the brush in low light. Sure some might take those low light before/ after shooting light shots knowing they will be able to see the arrow. I personally have no desire to use them.

Now light on your sight I would have to vote a BIG NO on. put a light on your sight with a lumenok and your just asking for people to start shooting game at night.  :twocents:
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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 04:39:50 PM »
I was surprised at the % that opposed.  I thought it would be higher.  I understand and agree with certain points on both sides of the issue.  I decided to vote yes because I eventually felt it was a personal choice for the hunter and should not effect harvest rates.  If that turns out to not be true and effects season length or causes more restrictions on harvest I will support getting them banned again.

I have said before that I would like to see exceptions made for bow mounted cameras and even lighted sight for night hunting outside of deer and elk season but I understand the slippery slope and the possibility of abuse is probably not worth the effort or the division it causes within the hunting community. 

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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2011, 04:45:13 PM »
More then likely the 10% that opposed it are all the traditional archers.  They always oppose anything to do with archery hunting that is new.

I am not a trad archer and I voted no.  :dunno:




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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 07:00:31 PM »
Here we go again.  :beatdeadhorse:
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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2011, 08:13:06 PM »
 I am not traditional and I voted no, as well.

 My reasoning is because as archery becomes more advance, we lose more and more season. Now, although, lighted nocks probably will not make any difference, what-so-ever, on killing game, it is still in the general publics eye, another advantage for the bowhunter that will and can be used as leverage against us.

 Everything keeps evolving. Back in the day, and no I am not living in the past, but we had 50% let-off bows, at best, and big old heavy aluminum arrows. I am not sure how fast my bow was back then, but I called it a rainbow. Modern technology, if used correctly, should be helping us, but it is taking away our longer seasons.

 As bows reach higher speeds with lighter arrows people seem to think that they can shoot animals at a greater range,  which is the opposite of what I believe, but that's another topic. But, in the eye of the public, bows are faster, arrows are lighter and straighter, sights are better, releases are now more than common, they are the norm, and people talk about killing animals at greater ranges. All this is seen and heard from the public. Remember, there is a lot of input into setting the seasons, not just harvest report cards and success rates.

 So, if I have a choice of saying "No" to lighted nocks and maybe that will save a day or two from being removed from my seasons, then, as political as it may be, I am saying "NO", even though I may be way off base with my way of thinking. It is just me:) If they asked if bowhunters would be willing to go back to 50% let off on compounds but in return we could have 2 extra days to hunt elk, I would vote "Yes" for that.

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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2011, 06:45:18 AM »
I don't really care about the lighted nock issue, but I definitely agree that adding more and more technology to a bow setup makes it less and less truly archery hunting, in my opinion. By the time you have a compound bow, with significant let-off, with sights, giant stabilizer, a mechanical release, etc in my opinion you're not really bow hunting. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's not really bow hunting. I think many non-hunters feel the same way. Again, nothing wrong with hunting this way, but if you choose to hunt with a bow, it just seems odd to me to strive constantly to make it more and more about technology and less and less about skill.

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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2011, 09:22:57 PM »
I don't really care about the lighted nock issue, but I definitely agree that adding more and more technology to a bow setup makes it less and less truly archery hunting, in my opinion. By the time you have a compound bow, with significant let-off, with sights, giant stabilizer, a mechanical release, etc in my opinion you're not really bow hunting. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's not really bow hunting. I think many non-hunters feel the same way. Again, nothing wrong with hunting this way, but if you choose to hunt with a bow, it just seems odd to me to strive constantly to make it more and more about technology and less and less about skill.
So if you use a scope on a gun is that not really gun hunting?

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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2011, 11:11:19 PM »
I don't really care about the lighted nock issue, but I definitely agree that adding more and more technology to a bow setup makes it less and less truly archery hunting, in my opinion. By the time you have a compound bow, with significant let-off, with sights, giant stabilizer, a mechanical release, etc in my opinion you're not really bow hunting. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's not really bow hunting. I think many non-hunters feel the same way. Again, nothing wrong with hunting this way, but if you choose to hunt with a bow, it just seems odd to me to strive constantly to make it more and more about technology and less and less about skill.
So if you use a scope on a gun is that not really gun hunting?

I understand where he is coming from but that was my first thought as well.  There are guys pushing guns and optics to some extreme limits.  No one suggests they are lacking in skill.  There will always be guys pushing things farther than their skill with all weapon types though.  But is a guy that can shoot a 30/30 lever with open sites have more skill than the guy that can make 1000 yards shots or are they completely different.   Some guys would say yes but the guy who takes a monster animal at a 800 yards is still going to feel proud of his trophy, and he should.

More technology can have an effect on those that choose not to use it.  This will always cause conflict.  This is true with all weapon types and I just dont see anyway to make everyone happy.  You could allow all the bells and whistles to be used on a bow during modern firearms season.  That might be a good compromise.   :dunno:

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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2011, 07:14:37 PM »
    Just wondering why a avid bow hunter would not vote for it, or any bow Hunter for that matter? there is NO advantage other than finding wounded game, so we need to quite thinking about our self and what we do or don't get, or what we are or ain't loosing.
   
Because this one is about the game, so we as bow hunters owe it to what we are hunting, and shooting a arrow through, to find what we shoot. for the animals sake!
   
In doing this we will be helping, our sport out, and returning and showing the respect the animal DESERVES,
Not to mention how it makes a person feel..........like putting the bow up when we hit a animal and can't find it, WE have ALL been there. why not try to do everything we can to help recover our game, I have to deal with this daily during hunting season and finding your arrow (is a must) and can make all the difference in the world, in recovering or even knowing if you hit it ,and knowing how long to wait before tracking your game. please in lighten me?

we are talking about lighted nocs here not contoling what people may or may not do.
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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2011, 07:23:56 PM »
Essentially I see no need for them, thus if folks are likely to use them as a crutch, then even more game will be injured and lost as people will take shots later in the day and at further distance.  Thats what this bowhunter is thinking. 

Shoot em in daylight and within range and you should be able to see where that arrow hits.   Just a thought

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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2011, 07:32:47 PM »
Essentially I see no need for them, thus if folks are likely to use them as a crutch, then even more game will be injured and lost as people will take shots later in the day and at further distance.  Thats what this bowhunter is thinking. 

Shoot em in daylight and within range and you should be able to see where that arrow hits.   Just a thought
Them same people are going to take them shots with or with out the lighted noc, or just use it any way,

there you go worring about what people are going to do, and not what is real important here and that is the game and knowing if it was hit and when and how to start the recovery of the game, You have to have your arrow in order to make to rite call. what you see is seldom what realy happened as far as your arrow placement.
The need is arrow recovery.
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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2011, 07:38:35 PM »
Maybe the people who can never find their arrows will still have problem finding their arrows. :chuckle:

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Re: Lumenok Poll Results
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2011, 07:41:46 PM »
i wont use them. my arrows are already to much money.

 


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