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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 03:33:00 PM »
Since you guys are talking 5-Stand are there any clubs that offer that type of shooting in Pierce County?

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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 03:38:35 PM »
Not sure but I think Evergreen does (is that even the right name?) They are in either So King or North Peirce - or wait - is that Covington. Oh heck, I dont know.... sorry!
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2012, 03:39:40 PM »
Looks like they are in Olympia - the one I was thinking of was in the Auburn/Covington area.

http://www.shootesc.com/
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2012, 03:44:22 PM »
Ravensdale - Cascade Rifle and Pistol as well as Seattle Skeet and Trap.  Both on the same property.

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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2012, 04:06:04 PM »
Hey guys! KEEP at it! Everyone must start somewhere! Scores in the teens are fine for now, it is perfectly normal to have ups and downs.  You will find a trap gun that "fits" one day and you will see your scores go way up! Try very hard to not let distractions get in your head. Become a machine! As far as lifting your head, I raise my Right elbow to form a pocket for the butt of the stock in my shoulder. This also keeps my head glued down. On hard angle targets, try to not panic, get out in front and keep swinging. Also, keep shooting! Its fun and you will improve. Welcome to the sport of trap, I am sure you are hooked for life! We shoot at Moses Lake on Sundays now, come on over! We would be gald to have anyone who wants to shoot!
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2012, 04:14:29 PM »
It's just my opinion but the fit of the gun is the most important part. I have a hard time getting a gun to fit me beacuse I'm 5'7. The length of pull is always to long. A poor mans way of judging L.O.P.. Bend you arm 90 degrees, place the butt of the gun in the bend and on your bicep with the stock against your forearm.  You should be able to bend your trigger finger 90 degrees and place it on the trigger. If your L.O.P. is to long you will be reaching to get your finger on the trigger. Just a thought, I know before I got my L.O.P. right, I couldn't hit anything.

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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2012, 09:02:04 PM »
Ravensdale - Cascade Rifle and Pistol as well as Seattle Skeet and Trap.  Both on the same property.

http://www.cascadeshootingfacilities.org/

http://sstclub.com/

Thats it! Cascade! Thanks!
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2012, 09:03:52 PM »
Hey guys! KEEP at it! Everyone must start somewhere! Scores in the teens are fine for now, it is perfectly normal to have ups and downs.  You will find a trap gun that "fits" one day and you will see your scores go way up! Try very hard to not let distractions get in your head. Become a machine! As far as lifting your head, I raise my Right elbow to form a pocket for the butt of the stock in my shoulder. This also keeps my head glued down. On hard angle targets, try to not panic, get out in front and keep swinging. Also, keep shooting! Its fun and you will improve. Welcome to the sport of trap, I am sure you are hooked for life! We shoot at Moses Lake on Sundays now, come on over! We would be gald to have anyone who wants to shoot!

I tried lifting my elbow and HOLY HECK - it freaking hurt when I got the recoil! I must be doing something wrong when I do it cuz I can shoot 150-200 rds with no problem but when I lift the elbow I'm cringing after 5!  :dunno:
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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2012, 09:05:45 PM »
It's just my opinion but the fit of the gun is the most important part. I have a hard time getting a gun to fit me beacuse I'm 5'7. The length of pull is always to long. A poor mans way of judging L.O.P.. Bend you arm 90 degrees, place the butt of the gun in the bend and on your bicep with the stock against your forearm.  You should be able to bend your trigger finger 90 degrees and place it on the trigger. If your L.O.P. is to long you will be reaching to get your finger on the trigger. Just a thought, I know before I got my L.O.P. right, I couldn't hit anything.
Yeah they showed me that at the gun shop and all my guns seem to have about same LOP - 14.25" or 14.5" and it fits my arm length about right. I think where my fit may be wrong is at the comb/cheek area.
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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2012, 10:43:45 AM »
My  :twocents:  Go to a pattern board and make sure that 60% of the pattern is above center and 40% below (for trap). Sporting clays and 5 stand I like 50/50. Also make sure that the pattern is centered left and right. Before I adjusted my stock my gun was shooting about 80% left (nice built in lead for right - left targets but i was way behind for left - right ones). Length of pull: mount the gun and there should be 1 ½ - 2  fingers distance from the tip of your nose to the top of your knuckle on the thumb. Most guns are too long. Take the recoil pad off for a few rounds if it is  long and shoot a few rounds.  Colder weather means heaver cloths and now you just changed you gun length with a heavy jacket. This will also change how you shoot. Practice your mount at home. Put a mag light in the top barrel (skeet choke and gun unloaded!) and make sure as you mount the gun the beam of the flash light stays steady on the wall and is not moving all over the place. Normally your front hand will not bring the barrel up at the same time as the back hand brings up the stock. This drill will show you this very clearly. Learn to shoot with 2 eyes open. Can’t emphasize this enough.  Learn to shoot with 2 eyes open. Get over the fact initially you will shoot worse, but soon you scores will start to climb. With one eye shut, you are giving up a huge portion of the field of view and you have zero depth perception . With one eye closed you cannot tell how far the target is, therefore you cannot tell how far to lead it. Close one eye and touch an object arm length away. Hard to tell exactly where is right? Now judge the distance of a moving target with only one eye harder yet.  Read the book If it ain’t broke…fix it….by Gil ash. There is no magic pill to consistent shooting; you most likely have a few things that need tweaking.
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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2012, 11:47:55 AM »
My  :twocents:  Go to a pattern board and make sure that 60% of the pattern is above center and 40% below (for trap). Sporting clays and 5 stand I like 50/50. Also make sure that the pattern is centered left and right. Before I adjusted my stock my gun was shooting about 80% left (nice built in lead for right - left targets but i was way behind for left - right ones). Length of pull: mount the gun and there should be 1 ½ - 2  fingers distance from the tip of your nose to the top of your knuckle on the thumb. Most guns are too long. Take the recoil pad off for a few rounds if it is  long and shoot a few rounds.  Colder weather means heaver cloths and now you just changed you gun length with a heavy jacket. This will also change how you shoot. Practice your mount at home. Put a mag light in the top barrel (skeet choke and gun unloaded!) and make sure as you mount the gun the beam of the flash light stays steady on the wall and is not moving all over the place. Normally your front hand will not bring the barrel up at the same time as the back hand brings up the stock. This drill will show you this very clearly. Learn to shoot with 2 eyes open. Can’t emphasize this enough.  Learn to shoot with 2 eyes open. Get over the fact initially you will shoot worse, but soon you scores will start to climb. With one eye shut, you are giving up a huge portion of the field of view and you have zero depth perception . With one eye closed you cannot tell how far the target is, therefore you cannot tell how far to lead it. Close one eye and touch an object arm length away. Hard to tell exactly where is right? Now judge the distance of a moving target with only one eye harder yet.  Read the book If it ain’t broke…fix it….by Gil ash. There is no magic pill to consistent shooting; you most likely have a few things that need tweaking.

Cool thanks CD! I will try this at home tonight and look for the book too!
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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2012, 04:53:07 PM »
The way the gun is mounted is everything,I can't shoot or hit a dang thing with a pre mounted gun,it just feels funny.The act of pushing out away up and getting them barrells going in the right direction gives a certain smoothness to it for me,the inertia generated in all of those steps almost get's you the right speed for the follow through butt,belly,beak,bang and keep swinging.

   I personally do not like the looks of a cynergy and as such would never own one,I've got a superposed and citori in brownings,a rizzinni and a CZ,................They all go bang and none of them shoot better than others.

  For a great time and a lesson might I suggest Chuck Dryke at Sunneydell shooting grounds,he's got a pretty impressive little bag of tricks that you'll wonder "What the heck,I thought this was a shooting lesson" .......it turns into a shooting lesson that if you pay attention will improve your performance by at least 70%(my buddy went for a lesson and the transformation from misser to hitter was impressive).There is also a gunsmith on site at Sunneydell for fitting.

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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2012, 05:43:03 PM »


  For a great time and a lesson might I suggest Chuck Dryke at Sunneydell shooting grounds,he's got a pretty impressive little bag of tricks that you'll wonder "What the heck,I thought this was a shooting lesson" .......it turns into a shooting lesson that if you pay attention will improve your performance by at least 70%(my buddy went for a lesson and the transformation from misser to hitter was impressive).There is also a gunsmith on site at Sunneydell for fitting.

x2 on taking a lesson from Chuck. i took a one day lesson from him its was as fun as it was informative. i took his course even after winning some major trophies and i can honestly say that my scores improved and were more consistant.

if youre looking for some books id highly reccomend "An Insight to Sports; Featuring Trapshooting" i forget the author's name but i know its Dr. something, its all about how to see things and how to make your eyes work better for you.  also check out "The Little Book of Trapshooting" by Frank Little. Frank was a highly decorated ATA shooter and i believe he was a member of several All-American teams.  Good read with lots of usefull info

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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2012, 05:59:26 PM »
Hey guys! KEEP at it! Everyone must start somewhere! Scores in the teens are fine for now, it is perfectly normal to have ups and downs.  You will find a trap gun that "fits" one day and you will see your scores go way up! Try very hard to not let distractions get in your head. Become a machine! As far as lifting your head, I raise my Right elbow to form a pocket for the butt of the stock in my shoulder. This also keeps my head glued down. On hard angle targets, try to not panic, get out in front and keep swinging. Also, keep shooting! Its fun and you will improve. Welcome to the sport of trap, I am sure you are hooked for life! We shoot at Moses Lake on Sundays now, come on over! We would be gald to have anyone who wants to shoot!

I tried lifting my elbow and HOLY HECK - it freaking hurt when I got the recoil! I must be doing something wrong when I do it cuz I can shoot 150-200 rds with no problem but when I lift the elbow I'm cringing after 5!  :dunno:

If it hurts, propably need to stick to another technique. You will find your way!
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Re: Trap & 5 Stand Shooting - See my new Cynergy O/U
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2012, 06:26:26 PM »
Sportfury,
One of the best sporting clay courses in the state is in Eatonville. Upper Nisqually Sportsmans Club. I love to shoot there.
There is one in Sumner, Tacoma, and  Ravensdale to name a few.
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