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i used to hunt elk every single year in ID..... haven't bought a tag since '08. no reason to since i can save 600.00 and hunt elk these days right here with just as good of a chance. prior to '06, the area i hunted in ID had elk like we have whitetails.... they were everywhere. by the time i bought my last tag, hearing a bugle was rare, seeing an elk was more rare and wolf tracks were everywhere.


i'd happily donate my unspent 600.00 to buy chopper fuel or any poison that could be used to get rid of the wolves in ID...... heck, if WA would pull their heads out, i'd also happily match that 600.00 a year for chopper fuel and/or poison here too.

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i read this article the other day and was yet to have a chance to post thanks for putting it up here. i wish i had answers of why washington is willing to take the same road idaho is on, it makes me wonder if the state biologists even have a say in game management or it is entirely based on public image? i say we boycot all hunting is wash for a few years maybe when wdfw takes the hit from no tag sales they will listen to us  :bash:. i am sure the discover passes will cover there operating cost. maybe they can enact a wildlife watching permit for all there wolf petting friends to watch the critters.

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We could dig our heels in and fight this and lose at every turn with small inconsequential victories or.... We could accelerate the outcome and prove our point and get things back into our hands that much quicker. I say instead of fighting this we join the anti-hunting groups and help them topple the state. Pendulum swings back that much quicker and they shut their mouths for a few years.  :twocents: Plus it would really confuse them.
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Anyone know what they are planning on doing with the wolves they "trap"?  Wonder if these would be live traps by any chance??  Haven't heard any plan for those, but if live traps are used I have an idea that just might work.  As I recall, you keep the wolf in the trap, attach a nice long piece of rope to the trap, then take the whole thing down to the lake.  Throw the SOB as far out as you can and see how long that mountain mutt can keep it afloat!!!  Then pull it back in and go set it up again!!!  I guess not very humane, so if that doesn't work I guess I could just provide guns and ammo too!!

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 you did not hear, the state of washington is buying each live wolf for relocation in the olympic national park! :bash:






JKJKJKJK  :sry: it just sounded like something we could exspect from this state! :bdid:






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you did not hear, the state of washington is buying each live wolf for relocation in the olympic national park! :bash:






JKJKJKJK  :sry: it just sounded like something we could exspect from this state! :bdid:

I'd be ok with this if they would relocate them into downtown Seattle.

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I'd be ok with this if they would relocate them into downtown Seattle.

haha release them on the occupy protesters, let them see how fuzzy they are.

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my family ranches in that area and will not go sit on the porch without a gun now.  too many close calls with the wolves.
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someone named Amos Miers asked him how many elk are in the Lolo Zone and what science is "misguiding" the State agency. He responded:

"I don't really know how many wolves are in that area. I suspect there is not as many as people want to believe because what are they eating IF all of the elk are gone? The wolves won't stay in that area if there is NO food source. But IF Idaho Fish and Game goes wolf hunting in a big enough area, they will probably kill some wolves. It will be expensive and a total waste of money to start this endeavor because they will have to keep killing wolves for the next 5-10 years straight. Not a wise decision."      :o

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And This biotch was in charge of USFWS for how long.?

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Mongolia seems to have a great way of hunting wolves :tup: 
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Clark was the head of USFWS for several years, we have the same problem in WDFW, many of them are potential future employees of Defenders.

Same problem with many biologists, many (not all) are wolf lovers who got degrees and went to work for WDFW.
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They infiltrated the IDFG too. That is why that agency was so misguided for so long. Now with a new director, and the fear that other heads will roll, IDFG is somewhat pulling their heads out of their dark area and starting to manage wolves. Fortunately for Idahoans, there aren't as many wolf lovers as we have in WA.
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