collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: black powder vs. pyrodex pellets  (Read 7063 times)

Offline Lcl 66 Tinner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 401
  • Location: Tacoma
black powder vs. pyrodex pellets
« on: December 09, 2011, 06:23:31 PM »
does 2 pellets(100grs) = 100grs of black powder?  saw somewhere that two pellets weigh by volume 72.5grs actually. any help would be nice.

Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39203
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: black powder vs. pyrodex pellets
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 07:13:53 PM »
I don't use them, and don't know how much they weigh or how much they measure by volume, but I know that 100 grains in pyrodex pellets is supposed to be equivalent to 100 grains of black powder.


Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39203
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: black powder vs. pyrodex pellets
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011, 07:20:04 PM »
This is from the Hodgdon website:

WARNING - Before loading your firearm, stop and read and understand the instructions furnished with your firearm. If you do not have an owner's manual for your firearm, contact the manufacturer and request one. The owner's manual for your firearm should specify a maximum allowable load. Under no circumstances should this maximum be exceeded.
Make certain that there is no cap, primer or powder in the priming pan of the firearm. Make certain that the firearm is not already loaded.
All charges of Triple Seven or Pyrodex should be measured by VOLUME not weight. A simple, adjustable blackpowder measure is the correct tool for this job. All loads listed in this brochure are measured by VOLUME.
Triple Seven is a high energy product designed to provide the muzzleloading hunter with higher velocities when used in the same VOLUME as blackpowder. To duplicate a blackpowder load velocity using Triple Seven, you must decrease the powder charge by 15%. *See WARNING below.
Pyrodex is lighter in weight than blackpowder and weighs only about 70% as much as blackpowder. However, because Pyrodex yields more energy per pound than does blackpowder, the same volume of Pyrodex gives similar performance to blackpowder. Pyrodex loads given in this manual for muzzleloading guns are measured by volume, not weight.


http://hodgdon.com/loading.html



Offline CP

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 7031
  • Location: Mukilteo
Re: black powder vs. pyrodex pellets
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2011, 07:22:36 PM »
BP and all BP substitutes are measured by volume.  They really should do away with the whole grains thing, it’s confusing and can be dangerous.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/difference_black_powders.htm

PS - pellets suck - use loose powder

Offline Lcl 66 Tinner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 401
  • Location: Tacoma
Re: black powder vs. pyrodex pellets
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011, 07:28:02 PM »
Thats what I thought but I googled " Whats the difference between black powder and pyrodex pellets" and it kicked me to chuckhawks.com and thats where I got the volume portion of it. so if I use two pellets its the same as 100grs of loose powder?

Offline CP

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 7031
  • Location: Mukilteo
Re: black powder vs. pyrodex pellets
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2011, 07:33:37 PM »
2 50g pellets = 100g of loose. 

Offline Lcl 66 Tinner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 401
  • Location: Tacoma
Re: black powder vs. pyrodex pellets
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011, 07:58:48 PM »
BP and all BP substitutes are measured by volume.  They really should do away with the whole grains thing, it’s confusing and can be dangerous.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/difference_black_powders.htm

PS - pellets suck - use loose powder
I use goex but my cousin bought the Tradition Tracker, you know the one with the plastic sights and missed 3 deer last week before he realized it and had a serious delay between the cap and igniting the pellets. So I gave him a pound of ffg and and tried to get his front sight back to being centered on the barrel. The next morning went to the rock pit and shot twice and was pretty close to on target and no delay with the loose powder. I just dont want to blow his gun up with using more powder than I should.

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

A lonely Job... by JDArms1240
[Today at 12:59:00 AM]


49 Degrees North Early Bull Moose by westdcw
[Yesterday at 11:11:57 PM]


2025 Crab! by WAcoueshunter
[Yesterday at 09:45:00 PM]


Son drawn - Silver Dollar Youth Any Elk - Help? by Boss .300 winmag
[Yesterday at 09:42:07 PM]


Bear behavior by Boss .300 winmag
[Yesterday at 09:36:32 PM]


Toutle Quality Bull - Rifle by HntnFsh
[Yesterday at 08:09:14 PM]


AUCTION: SE Idaho DIY Deer or Deer/Elk Hunt by WoolyRunner
[Yesterday at 06:39:13 PM]


2025 Montana alternate list by Wingin it
[Yesterday at 06:28:33 PM]


MA-10 Coho by WAcoueshunter
[Yesterday at 02:08:31 PM]


KODIAK06 2025 trail cam and personal pics thread by kodiak06
[Yesterday at 01:52:01 PM]


Blue Mtn Foothills West Rifle Tag by Trooper
[Yesterday at 01:18:40 PM]


GROUSE 2025...the Season is looming! by Dave Workman
[Yesterday at 01:01:22 PM]


50 inch SXS and Tracks? by jrebel
[Yesterday at 11:20:33 AM]


Sockeye Numbers by Southpole
[Yesterday at 11:12:46 AM]


3 pintails by metlhead
[Yesterday at 11:07:43 AM]


Modified game cart... 🛒 by Dan-o
[Yesterday at 08:44:37 AM]


Velvet by Brute
[Yesterday at 08:37:08 AM]


Calling Bears by hunter399
[Yesterday at 06:12:44 AM]


HUNTNNW 2025 trail cam thread and photos by kodiak06
[Yesterday at 05:43:11 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal