Wolves killed Cattle

[mulehunter]

http://wallowavalleyonline.com/wvo/?p=10041   

[BOWHUNTER45]

What needs to happen is the owners of the cattle need to send everyone who had a part in planting these meat eat sons of beaches !! they seriously need to sue the sheet out of everyone ...game Dept -government and everyone in between 

[Hunting7mm]

It's begun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[hogsniper]

These wolves are responsible for 20+ confirmed cow deaths.   Pretty crazy that the state has 4 packs and they cant control them....Washington wants 15!  Good luck!

[seth30]

  I hope they make the libby groups pay for the loss of cattle

[mulehunter]

Problem here in America, HOW CAN WE GET 300,000 Wa HUNTERS to join together fight the law.   

[Jack Diamond]

That's why livestock producers have plan B    Sell,Spend,Sleep.

[twinners]

Every time there is an animal killed by wolves they need to truck it over and dump it on the lawns of the people involved in the wolf recovery groups.  See what they think when it is on their front lawn.

[BLUEBULLS]

Every time there is an animal killed by wolves they need to truck it over and dump it on the lawns of the people involved in the wolf recovery groups.  See what they think when it is on their front lawn.

might as well live trap the wolves and put them there too

[Gringo31]

Problem here in America, HOW CAN WE GET 300,000 Wa HUNTERS to join together fight the law.

Make Washington for Wildlife the conduit it should be.   

[mulehunter]

Problem here in America, HOW CAN WE GET 300,000 Wa HUNTERS to join together fight the law.

Make Washington for Wildlife the conduit it should be.   

   I hope more ppl will join.

[Elkaholic daWg]

 AND educate MANY (hunters)of them that the folks they are in bed with on so many other issues are also anti hunting/anti gun under the veil.

[gjbruny]

quotes from the article

"This landowner and others that have lost livestock animals to wolves are likely to be compensated for their losses. Earlier this year, the Oregon State Legislature and Governor Kitzhaber directed the Oregon Department of Agriculture to create a wolf compensation program. The program is expected to be in effect in early 2012. Ranchers that lost livestock since early September 2011 (when a compensation program funded by Defenders of Wildlife ended) will be eligible for retroactive compensation."

"Cascadia Wildlands, the Center for Biological Diversity and Oregon Wild, and other wolf supporters have stated before that it should be enough that ranchers get compensated for their loss, thus wolves should not be lethally removed just because they keep on killing livestock."


well here is an idea since "compensation for the lost livestock should be enough." since we as hunters compensate the state for our interest in hunting through the purchase of hunting licenses and tags, why should the taxpayers have to pay for the livestock compensation?

should be that the wolf activist groups should have to compensate the farmers from their group's funds since they have an interest in the wolf........ if that were the case, i'd say let the wolves eat all the cattle for a while..... make it so easy that so many cows have to be compensated for by the hippie groups that it bankrupts them.

[BIGINNER]

PLUS THEY DON'T KEEP HARRASSMENT IN ACCOUNT.  I'M NOT A RANCHER OR FARMER,... BUT ANYONE WITH EVEN A TAD BIT OF COMMON SENSE WOULD GUESS THAT THE CATTLE WOULD OSE LOTS OF WEIGHT AND HEALTH FROM BEING CHASED AROUND BY WOLVES AND NOT BEING ABLE TO EAT PEACEFULLY...   AND I WOULD ALSO GUESS THE LESS WEIGHT EQUALS LESS MONEY FOR THE RANCHER/FARMER.

WHERE'S THE COMPENSATION FOR THAT? 

[CAMPMEAT]

I think hunters/cattlemen couldn't /can't do squat to kill the wolves and turn the tables on the anti's. The reason being is, we don't use underhanded terrorist tactics, scare tactics, threats of murdering your family, threats of violence against pro hunting/cattlemen groups or anybody who opposes them, burning down businesses etc. To me, these people are terrorist scum. Everybody is afraid of them, plus they have tons on money backing them up. Millions of dollars. How much money does HW and WFW have to fight these dangerous terrorists ? I'm guessing, none. There has to be a solution to the pollution, a reason for the season. If all the biggies in the hunting industries and the very, very rich cattlemen/slaughter houses out there pooled their money together, they might make a small dent in the anti's agenda, maybe. This country has turned into a bunch of liberal bleeding hearts for anything and everything. You get more jail time for abusing a kitty cat than abusing a spouse. Something is wrong in this world...........................terribly wrong !

[Jack Diamond]

 

[wence5]

This is a ridiculous plan, and there is no way it can be fair compensation. Lets say the rancher has a cow killed, and the state tells the rancher that he will be compensated $500 for his loss, that covers the lost of that cow, but what if it was a young cow that can produce calves for 10 years, and half of those new calves are heifers that would continue to produce for the rancher? He has lost way more than $500, if you take the lost production into account. This is a feel good measure, that will be broke in less than a year.  So nothing changes until there is new leadership in the state. Oregon and Washington, remember, keep voting Democrat, and  when nothing changes or gets worse you have nobody to blame but the guy looking back in the mirror. 

[KillBilly]

These wolves are responsible for 20+ confirmed cow deaths.   Pretty crazy that the state has 4 packs and they cant control them....Washington wants 15!  Good luck!

Correction...washington wants 15 breeding pairs... the total number of packs (two or more wolves that travel together)is only counted as total packs (no set number) and  wolves total could reach 600-1000 by the time we verify 15 BP actually exist.

[predatorpro]

Problem here in America, HOW CAN WE GET 300,000 Wa HUNTERS to join together fight the law.   

if everyone didnt buy hunting licenses or discover passes next year....

[Jack Diamond]

Problem here in America, HOW CAN WE GET 300,000 Wa HUNTERS to join together fight the law.   

if everyone didnt buy hunting licenses or discover passes next year....

there is no way shape or form the majority of hunters in this state will do one damn thing to change the current rule , and they will continue to purchase licenses, and there is no one organization that will change the will of the populace, when the state allows out of state testimony and opinions to be included we are screwed.
bearing in mind a lot of the non pro wolf groups are also headquartered out of state, so we want to only consider the groups we like, that only serve our interest's. another Fantasy.   The livestock producers are also a potent political allie, however the populace of this state wants wolves,and if the "state" compensates with the tax money, so be it. it is not our money , it belongs to the state.   If someones hunting dog is killed by a wolf, yes I would understand you wanting the "state" to compensate for the loss. Even though the dog was not your soul source of income for the year, those who feel that livestock operators should not be compensated with "state" dollars for "actual " livestock loss's are not welcome at my table.

[CAMPMEAT]

Problem here in America, HOW CAN WE GET 300,000 Wa HUNTERS to join together fight the law.   

if everyone didnt buy hunting licenses or discover passes next year....

there is no way shape or form the majority of hunters in this state will do one damn thing to change the current rule , and they will continue to purchase licenses, and there is no one organization that will change the will of the populace, when the state allows out of state testimony and opinions to be included we are screwed.
bearing in mind a lot of the non pro wolf groups are also headquartered out of state, so we want to only consider the groups we like, that only serve our interest's. another Fantasy.   The livestock producers are also a potent political allie, however the populace of this state wants wolves,and if the "state" compensates with the tax money, so be it. it is not our money , it belongs to the state.   If someones hunting dog is killed by a wolf, yes I would understand you wanting the "state" to compensate for the loss. Even though the dog was not your soul source of income for the year, those who feel that livestock operators should not be compensated with "state" dollars for "actual " livestock loss's are not welcome at my table.

Compensate every rancher in this state. Trying running a business raising animals yourself, if you don't like it, I bet your tune will change. Everybody else in this state is compensated that sure as hell doesn't deserve it and hasn't paid one cent into anything, ie: illegals to start with !

[Jack Diamond]

Problem here in America, HOW CAN WE GET 300,000 Wa HUNTERS to join together fight the law.   

if everyone didnt buy hunting licenses or discover passes next year....

there is no way shape or form the majority of hunters in this state will do one damn thing to change the current rule , and they will continue to purchase licenses, and there is no one organization that will change the will of the populace, when the state allows out of state testimony and opinions to be included we are screwed.
bearing in mind a lot of the non pro wolf groups are also headquartered out of state, so we want to only consider the groups we like, that only serve our interest's. another Fantasy.   The livestock producers are also a potent political allie, however the populace of this state wants wolves,and if the "state" compensates with the tax money, so be it. it is not our money , it belongs to the state.   If someones hunting dog is killed by a wolf, yes I would understand you wanting the "state" to compensate for the loss. Even though the dog was not your soul source of income for the year, those who feel that livestock operators should not be compensated with "state" dollars for "actual " livestock loss's are not welcome at my table.

Compensate every rancher in this state. Trying running a business raising animals yourself, if you don't like it, I bet your tune will change. Everybody else in this state is compensated that sure as hell doesn't deserve it and hasn't paid one cent into anything, ie: illegals to start with !

and no quota whatsoever on how many breeding pairs!

[CAMPMEAT]

Problem here in America, HOW CAN WE GET 300,000 Wa HUNTERS to join together fight the law.   

if everyone didnt buy hunting licenses or discover passes next year....

there is no way shape or form the majority of hunters in this state will do one damn thing to change the current rule , and they will continue to purchase licenses, and there is no one organization that will change the will of the populace, when the state allows out of state testimony and opinions to be included we are screwed.
bearing in mind a lot of the non pro wolf groups are also headquartered out of state, so we want to only consider the groups we like, that only serve our interest's. another Fantasy.   The livestock producers are also a potent political allie, however the populace of this state wants wolves,and if the "state" compensates with the tax money, so be it. it is not our money , it belongs to the state.   If someones hunting dog is killed by a wolf, yes I would understand you wanting the "state" to compensate for the loss. Even though the dog was not your soul source of income for the year, those who feel that livestock operators should not be compensated with "state" dollars for "actual " livestock loss's are not welcome at my table.

Compensate every rancher in this state. Trying running a business raising animals yourself, if you don't like it, I bet your tune will change. Everybody else in this state is compensated that sure as hell doesn't deserve it and hasn't paid one cent into anything, ie: illegals to start with !

and no quota whatsoever on how many breeding pairs!

...........isn't unity great.

[mulehunter]

http://wallowavalleyonline.com/wvo/?p=10098     

[idahoelkhunter300wby]

Remember boys, the only thing that you and I as hunters can do is practice the 3 S's.

Shoot
Shovel
Shutup

Thats how they handle it in Idaho and Montana.

[Jack Diamond]

can't say for a fact, but I believe that will happen again here in this state, just saying.