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Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« on: December 14, 2011, 01:47:30 PM »

Saw this the other day & thought to put it on here - nice looking critters, any one found any signs of? Hope this link works, if not maybe type it in?


http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/nov/29/feds-propose-critical-caribou-habitat-idaho-washin/


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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 01:50:48 PM »
whoa,  those are really cool.  I had no idea we had those in WA.  if wdfw wants them around they are going to have to declare a wolf free zone.   :bash:
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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 02:05:38 PM »
I agree with protecting the Woodland Caribou but it feels like the Feds are using the caribou to limit human activity on another 375,000 acres of public property.
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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 02:10:10 PM »
This is all BS!   :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Do NOT be fooled.  This is more BS being crammed down our throats and removal of freedom in the name of regulation.

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The action could lead to rule changes for logging, fire control and human activity in some areas.

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One group of caribou was located in the U.S. during this survey.  All other caribou tracks were located in B.C.  The final fixed-wing flight was followed immediately by a helicopter survey to count and classify caribou.  The South Selkirks contain a minimum of 46 caribou in 2009 – 43 in B.C. and 3 in the U.S

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The proposed critical habitat is located in Boundary and Bonner counties in Idaho, and Pend Oreille County in Washington. These lands are currently considered to be occupied by the species.

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We do encourage our federal, state and Tribal partners, and others, to provide comments specific to this proposal,” said Brian Kelly, Idaho State Supervisor for the Service.
sound familiar?

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The primary threat to the species’ survival is the loss of contiguous old growth forest habitats due to timber harvest and wildfires. Human activities such as road-building and recreational trails can also fragment caribou habitat and facilitate the movement of predators into the caribou’s range

You see?  The problem is us humans and if wolves are eating them it's only because of the ROADS AND TRAILS that WE built making it easy for the wolves to access this remote area.

Please look at page 4 here and tell me this makes sense.

https://research.idfg.idaho.gov/wildlife/Wildlife%20Technical%20Reports/2009%20Caribou%20Census%20South%20Selkirks.pdf

Who might be behind this???

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Defenders of Wildlife, The Lands Council, Selkirk Conservation Alliance, and Center for Biological Diversity petitioned the Service to designate critical habitat for the species in 2002. A 2009 Settlement Agreement stipulated that the Service would submit a proposed critical habitat rule to the Federal Register on or before November 20, 2011, with a final rule by November 20, 2012.

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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 02:16:53 PM »
 Well said Gringo. I'm not nearly smart enough yo be able to post all that. :chuckle:

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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 02:19:35 PM »
 :yeah:

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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 02:56:25 PM »
Gringo I agree.  they are doing the same thing with the Grizzly in the north cascades.  limit access to aid in recovery.  Uh It don't work nor matter to the griz if were are there or not. 
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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 02:59:40 PM »
The area in WA that they're "protecting" is already protected....IT'S THE SALMO PRIEST WILDERNESS AREA.  Before you go blowing off about anyone taking your freedoms you should take a look at the map.

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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 03:09:20 PM »
The area in WA that they're "protecting" is already protected....IT'S THE SALMO PRIEST WILDERNESS AREA.  Before you go blowing off about anyone taking your freedoms you should take a look at the map.

I've known about this area for years, so it's not new if you keep up on things. Plus, that's grizzly country big time.
Plus, it's roadless. Correct me if I'm wrong Bart.
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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 03:14:47 PM »
Well aware of the map, and the designated area.  Never saw a sign of any woodlands.  Another big WA frickin' joke in my opinion.   I will not argue the fact that there are grizzlies there........I've had an encounter. :)

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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 03:38:01 PM »
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The area in WA that they're "protecting" is already protected.

Please try and explain this to me then.
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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 03:45:36 PM »
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The area in WA that they're "protecting" is already protected.

Please try and explain this to me then.

I think because it's a big grizzly area. Plus, the Woodland Caribou go back and forth between BC and the USA.  This is just a guess.
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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 04:06:35 PM »
The area in WA that they're "protecting" is already protected....IT'S THE SALMO PRIEST WILDERNESS AREA.  Before you go blowing off about anyone taking your freedoms you should take a look at the map.

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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 04:21:04 PM »
Several area's back home (NW Montana) they closed off because of grizzly habitat and because there were these same Caribou there.  No one had ever seen them, but they saw their tracks from the air! So obviously they existed. :bash:
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Re: Woodland Caribou in NE WA
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 08:38:46 PM »
Several years ago in south stevens county a guy I know was plowing one of his feilds and he turned over an old caribou shed. Who knows how long that thing had been there?

 


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