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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2011, 09:54:43 AM »
Good response from WDFW !    I truly believe their hands are tied  with this issue as well. I do not even believe photographic evidence in
This age of technology.    And false claims do more harm than good,along the lines of the "Boy who cried Wolf"
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2011, 11:43:54 AM »
The plan just passed allows transfer within the state.  We are inside the normal movement distance of about a thousand (state numbers, not my guess) of the beasts.  Southwest Alberta will do all it can to disperse an existing population that by 2011 research had a diet of over half cattle.  No scare tactics, just how it is.

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2011, 11:50:41 AM »
Good response from WDFW !    I truly believe their hands are tied  with this issue as well. I do not even believe photographic evidence in
This age of technology.    And false claims do more harm than good,along the lines of the "Boy who cried Wolf"

Their hands are hardly tied. But, I'll believe their response on this rumor until I have positive proof otherwise.
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2011, 12:13:15 PM »
I know that what WDFW says about some of the rumours is true. I got in the middle of Rumour #4 and found out from the person in the photo that the original photo was cropped and the rumour was false just as explained by WDFW.

I don't think WDFW is planting or translocating wolves. However, I find it highly possible that wolf groups would do such a thing. But these rumours do us no good in trying to have solid arguments to get reasonable wolf management.

Do I agree with wolves, of course not, but I say "Show Us The Pictures" otherwise it's just another rumour.... :twocents:


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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2011, 01:07:02 PM »
Nature. It's cheaper than therapy.

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2011, 02:39:43 PM »
I don't think WDFW is planting or translocating wolves. However, I find it highly possible that wolf groups would do such a thing.
I also don't think the state is transporting.  Reason I say this is because some of the greeny groups are upset because the state doesn't want to assist them in their plans to establish more packs by translocating.  I guess the state told them it was up to the wolves to naturally migrate.  The greenies instead are focusing their efforts on the Feds now.  The bios told them that the wolves would expand westward to I-5, but felt I-5 to be too busy and present a barrier to wolf migration.  So getting the packs needed on the westside would need to be done by other means--human involvement.  So they are trying to get wolves, but I guess the state didn't want them taking the naturally migrating wolves and WA doesn't really have an excess (yet  :rolleyes:), so they have to go to a different source.  I've heard they are looking at trapping their 'starter packs' on Vancouver Island because those are wolves from an environment very similar to western WA. 

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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2011, 05:54:16 PM »
My second comment on the I-5 corridor.  Who ever repeats this is from another planet where I-5 is a burning moat of oil.  Again, what are these people thinking?  Have they ever been here?  Have they ever seen any wildlife?  Do they ever think for themselves?  Just wondering.

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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2011, 05:58:43 PM »
I have to take them at face value when they tell us they're not transplanting, from Vancouver Island or anywhere, until I have solid evidence otherwise.
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2011, 06:04:15 PM »
I know that what WDFW says about some of the rumours is true. I got in the middle of Rumour #4 and found out from the person in the photo that the original photo was cropped and the rumour was false just as explained by WDFW.

I don't think WDFW is planting or translocating wolves. However, I find it highly possible that wolf groups would do such a thing. But these rumours do us no good in trying to have solid arguments to get reasonable wolf management.

Do I agree with wolves, of course not, but I say "Show Us The Pictures" otherwise it's just another rumour.... :twocents:


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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2011, 06:16:20 PM »
piano, I should clarify.  It wouldn't be WDFW.  I think they (WDFW) aren't intending to shuffle wolves.  It would be USFWS and the NPS.  The same groups that brought the wolves to the rockies.  Not sure when they (USFWS/NPS) would plan to do it, if they ever actually do.  Just because WDFW isn't planning on doing it, doesn't mean another part of the government can't. 

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2011, 06:32:17 PM »
piano, I should clarify.  It wouldn't be WDFW.  I think they (WDFW) aren't intending to shuffle wolves.  It would be USFWS and the NPS.  The same groups that brought the wolves to the rockies.  Not sure when they (USFWS/NPS) would plan to do it, if they ever actually do.  Just because WDFW isn't planning on doing it, doesn't mean another part of the government can't.

OK, but a move like that would have to be in conjunction with the WDFW and is in direct opposition to their plan. I don't think the feds can usurp the power of the local authority without a court action. I may be naive.
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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2011, 06:50:29 PM »
OK, but a move like that would have to be in conjunction with the WDFW and is in direct opposition to their plan. I don't think the feds can usurp the power of the local authority without a court action. I may be naive.
According to the groups around here (olympic park associates and olympic forest coalition) WDFW doesn't have the authority to prohibit the reintroduction onto federal lands.

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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2011, 07:05:41 PM »
sounded like wildlife department made an effort to sound sarcastic in their reply about the relocation of wolves. almost looks as if they are making a mockery out of the hunting community. as far as all of their decisions have gone so far, i would not be surprised if they, wildlife dept, were in fact part of the process. they apparently have no regard for hunters and outdoorsman or anyone else that pays their bills. just wait till the 100 million dollar plus industry of hunting turns south into a blackhole and their funds dry up. wildlife dept makes me sick, they no diff than the politicians in washington. its time for a change. i would be curious to know where they released them in ellensburg tho.

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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2011, 10:00:36 PM »
Ellensburg huh   :drool: I might be "coyote" hunting when i go back for school  :tup:

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Re: This is from another website.
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2011, 10:40:23 PM »
It is the Washington dept of Fish and Wildlife not the Washington dept of fish and elk or the dept of fish and deer.  Wildlife is all inclusive.
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