Primitive only season

[funkster]

Did it ever occur to you that that leaves a 4% group of hunter's using primitive weapons. Stick with he subject. We are talking about having a primitive only season and for the WDFW to do so you are going to need a bigger group of hunters. I already know that not all hunter's submit to P&Y so that number isn't 100% accurate but it does give you a good idea how many hunters are using long bows and recurves.  I'am not against using primitive weapons, giving them there own season I'am not for that at all.

[WDFW-SUX]

well by the 4% number traditional archers killed 57 elk state wide in 2005 that includes antlered and antler-less.  Not a big number. For deer they killed 173 also a very small number state wide.

[boneaddict]

If you are not interested in it, and there isn't that many that are, and the harvest is so low, then what harm would it be to satisfy more folks in Washington state, by allowing a traditional only unit or hunt.  It could be yet another oppurtunity without much loss for the department, similiar to Spring Bear.  Besides, it would be fewer hunters interfering with you on the hill in the general.  As for trad guys not being able to hit a broad side of a barn, stand out there at 60 yards  and see if I can bounce a rubber tip off your butt.  Ethically I wouldn't shoot that far hunting, but to prove a point......

[funkster]

Did it ever occur to you that that leaves a 4% group of hunter's using primitive weapons. Stick with he subject.

Did it ever occur to you that you were the one that got off the topic with your little FYI?  Also you are not even thinking before you type.  YOU said in your previous post that 96% of the hunters that tagged book bucks was with a compound.. Right??  not 96% of archers hunt with compounds....  Now your confusing yourself and thinking that the 4% that tagged book bucks with traditional is actually the percentage of people that hunt with traditional weapons.  So take your own advice and stick to the subject so you don't confuse yourself.  Thanks.

I still think primitive should be spears not bows

I was just saying that a primitive weapon season would not be that large of a user group,sorry o' great one that I didn't make myself clear. The WDFW has enough problems with the season's that already exist,why create more problems for them. You already have something against me from the other thread and you are looking for a argument so that is all I have to say to you.

Boneaddict, I will pay you $100 if you could put 3 arrows even 2 inches outside of an X at 60 yrds with a recurve or a longbow with no sights and wood arrows.

[jackelope]

[jackelope]

back on track gang...

[boneaddict]

Damn....where's the video camera when you need it.  I was  out doing just that when all of this talk was happening.  Nothing like shooting with sweat running in your eyes.  Took me 5 arrows though.  I think mostly I said that I could hit your butt at 60 yards, making a point about the 20 yard comment.  

[General Disarray]

My suggestion would be to take a unit that isn't open to any archery general season like 342 Umtanum and give the Traditional guys a season in there.  If you try adding days that just means they'll take away some days somewhere else.  they have a certain number to work with and have to balance accordingly.

[boneaddict]

Exactly, and they could monitor harvest, with mandatory check in, and they could govern the amount of tags with population goals.

[Ray]

I'm ready for primitive season 

[Ridgerunner]

I don't think there are the numbers to support a primitive only season personally.

[WDFW-SUX]

I talked to the powers that be about this subject last year and they told me that it would not happen because they dont want to add to the number of days that animals are hunted every fall. Between the three season they feel that they are maxed out. They said the only way to make primitive wepon seasons  happen would be to eliminate user days for one of the user groups most likely archery and that ain't going to happen.

[boneaddict]

I definately wouldn't want to do that.  I think there are other ways. 

[sisu]

After reading all this here is my 3 cents. Archery no matter if you use compound, recurve, long bow it's STILL archery and it's STILL somewhat primitive.
Archers have enough problems with the public image of hunting Bambi with out dividing us within our own ranks.
Sisu

[funkster]

After reading all this here is my 3 cents. Archery no matter if you use compound, recurve, long bow it's STILL archery and it's STILL somewhat primitive.
Archers have enough problems with the public image of hunting Bambi with out dividing us within our own ranks.
Sisu

That is what I was trying to say but I guess it did not come out right!!

Miles,no hard feelings. I just felt that after every post I made in the other thread you would come back with a smart comment like "hitting a running elk at 80 yards" I never said anything close to that.  I can hash it and I have no hard feelings. I really am a jokester by nature!!

Bonaddict, offer still stands, lets see the video man!!! I don't know how many of you all watch Tred Barta or how you feel about him, but he does hold alot of big game records. He seems to have alot of knowledge about primitive hunting and seems to be a pretty good shot. However, when he came out west for a deer hunt I saw him miss over 30 arrows at yardages 25 to 30 before he connected.He did say it is much harder hunting out west than it is back east with primitive gear.