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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2011, 01:06:11 AM »
Liquid sutures. I've used it before when I've sliced my hands on whatever I was stupid enough to be playing with. Same concept as Liquid sutures anyway. I've heard rumor that that's what it was created for but I've never looked into it.

FC, thanks, I'll give that a shot. It's always such a draw to make the target as big as possible now that I can. Guess I need to avoid the temptation some.

JJB11B I have no clue. It wasn't his weapon it was his buddies. They were 3 lanes down from me so I didn't get to witness it. I just saw the aftermath. I saw the blood on the scope or I wouldn't have believed it myself. I don't know what gun it was other than it was a so called "black gun" and after seeing what happened I didn't feel like getting too much closer to them. You can call me a liar if you want to I guess. I did have that insomniac post a week ago and it is 105am here  :chuckle:
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2011, 01:09:05 AM »
Since this thread has already run off course.... I too use super glue for cuts/gashes.  Just clean the cut, squeeze the skin back together, and run a strip of super glue over it.  It's a hell of a lot easier/better than messing around with a band-aid.

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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2011, 01:11:19 AM »
I believe your story...I "scope checked" myself with a 1 1/8" end wrench not too long ago. I had a sweet spit just aboce my left eye. They normally dont kick much either  :tup:
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2011, 01:15:19 AM »
True enough. It's hard to keep a thread on topic at 1 am when the OP went to bed right after he posted. Speaking of which I should try that again. I'll be back in 5 hours.

OP if you aren't back by then I'm going to your house and I'm gonna stand 801 yards away and yell at you!
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2011, 01:20:17 AM »
 :jacked: hahaa
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2011, 07:52:09 AM »
To get back on track, I would say that a savage long range in 6.5, 300 or 338 is about as cheap as possible for a long range rig. I don't own one and I build my own remingtons so I am just using economics. Cold bore accuracy is not a typical thing in factory tubes. I would say if you are making first round hits from a tikka at 800 you are a very very very good shot. Most guys choose 10-12# rigs for a reason. My advice is save your cash until you are closer to 3 grand for the whole outfit and start looking at used guns. It costs me $2500 in parts to build a rig like you are talking about and that is if I don't pay myself or my tools. If I went to an ai chassis I could nearly double that. As for glass, you have zero business shooting at game animals that far without turrets. Reticles are fine for short shots to around 400-500, but you are looking at close to 20 minutes of correction in most guns at 800....that is over 13' of correction. Can you tell the difference between 13' and 13'6" at 800 with a $300 scope....not. I would not worry about caliber. Even a quick twist 6mm is deadly that far. I personally use an 8twist 6.5 and have killed elk at the range you wish and energy is a nonissue. If I were going to build a gun for that kind of shot, it would be a quick twist 6.5, 7, or 308 and plan on berger or smk for pills. It will weigh a bunch and suck for anything remotely thick. 

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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2011, 07:57:09 AM »
First, can you shoot to 800 accurately? If so, then you already know what you need  :tup: done! You will need a fair amount in scope, bottom barrel I'd say 200 bucks should do it. That leaves 500 for a rifle? Buy a savage stevens and get a real stock and a decent trigger for it. You're out of money so hope that barrel is a shooter!

I am not saying i want or would shoot 800 yards I was citing something I read. Give me a good long range soloution in buget. Thats all. Weather I can or would is up to me. Lets just talk rifle and scope save the other stuff for another thread.
Thank you for your input.
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2011, 07:59:29 AM »
Oh yeah, youll need a good range finder, several hundred bucks for one of those, too. if you.don't already own one and dont have.a sepatate  budget for that then I'm with the above.who say youre a bit thin.in the wallet to undertake this.

Have range finder. Intrested in rifle and scope suggestions.
Thank you for your help.
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2011, 08:01:46 AM »
I'm not saying that at all. He may very well be able to slap something together that can do the job at that range. I doubt he can work the trigger and turrets for the shot though. Most people don't understand what makes a shot that hard in real life. Shooting a man sized target at 300 meters is enough of a b!tch for me to do consistantly, let alone something I may actually have a use for.

Hey OP, are you wanting to do this cold bore one shot type of a thing? Do you have somewhere to spend literally all day zeroing a rifle?

Guys you are over thinking it. Dont worry about all the other stuff. What would you use for rifle and scope.?

Thank you for your input.
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2011, 08:04:18 AM »
Is he talking about cleanly harvesting these animals " deer,elk,caribou,black bear,antelope,wolf,coyote,moose,sheep,goats" out to 800 yards ?

Ok a lot of you are hung up on the 800 yards. Give me your best rifle & scope in buget and how far you think it is good for.100,2000,500?
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2011, 08:05:30 AM »
I don't think you can build a 800yd ethical killing rifle for $700

I'm thinking he wanted to spend $700 or less on the rifle, not the rifle and scope. :dunno:


700.00 rifle
Scope is extra
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #41 on: December 28, 2011, 08:08:45 AM »
Ghost hunter, when you wake up and read this, please understand I'm not trying to bash you, I just don't think you've grasped the entire concept of all the math involved and the expense of shooting that far. There is only one way to shoot long distance. That one way is also the most expensive part of the entire equation. AMMO! And lots of it. TONS and TONS of it! Even if you handload it still won't be a good idea. Join a marksman club somewhere. I still talk to young joes in the army that think a sniper rifle is some gun with a massive scope on it. They can tell me the stats about every sniper system in call of duty, and when I start getting into the long range ballistics their go to response is to mumble something about the coriolis effect. Not a single one can tell me anything about moving turrets. They forget that bullets arc and they aren't laser beams.

No problem, Give me your best choice of rifle 700.00 .Scope is extra. Dont worry about the other stuff.
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #42 on: December 28, 2011, 08:09:13 AM »
850 yard shooter right here. About $900 or so in it.
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2011, 08:12:57 AM »
Is he talking about cleanly harvesting these animals " deer,elk,caribou,black bear,antelope,wolf,coyote,moose,sheep,goats" out to 800 yards ?

In the interest of qualifying my comment: I did not read his post that way. I dont think you can build a hunting setup to kill from 100-800yards for $700. I DO think you could make a dedicated setup for ranges of 500-650 yards in that budget.

OP was impressed by an article but only said he wants a dedicated gun to shoot out to "longer ranges." So I guess its in the eye of thebeholder. I have a $500 scope+rifle combo that I can nail targets out to 550 yards consistently. Thats the farthest at the 'public' range I can shoot withoutpaying member dues.

OP also admitted to being a bit of a puss as far as recoil goes. Magnums dont really fit well into that. so I would go with .308 or .30-06.

Thank you someone did read my post.  :yeah:
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Re: Build me a rifle.
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2011, 08:16:21 AM »
True enough. It's hard to keep a thread on topic at 1 am when the OP went to bed right after he posted. Speaking of which I should try that again. I'll be back in 5 hours.

OP if you aren't back by then I'm going to your house and I'm gonna stand 801 yards away and yell at you!

Come on Iam easy and always like talking hunting and shooting. Bring your own coffee, I do not drink the stuff.
Now back on task fellows. What's my rifle going to be.?
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