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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2012, 11:31:55 AM »
grey ones and black ones and yes some pups  and the teanaway unit

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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2012, 04:45:56 PM »
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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2012, 04:51:59 PM »
grey ones and black ones and yes some pups  and the teanaway unit






That goes along with all the other sightings in the general area.  Already 13 huh?   We are in serious trouble here folks. I want to be able to hunt big game until I can't walk. I don't know if hunting in this state will last that long.
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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2012, 09:47:49 AM »
It will not last unless something is done no not 2yrs or whenever from now

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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2012, 11:18:13 AM »
The game might be able to hold out longer near the coast/rivers if the salmon come back.  Wolves like to eat salmon and many are susceptible to salmon poisoning and will die from it.

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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2012, 12:18:38 PM »
Really, my labs eat salmon all time, doesn't kill them.  :dunno:
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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2012, 12:27:59 PM »
Really, my labs eat salmon all time, doesn't kill them.  :dunno:
http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/cliented/salmon.aspx
Fishing can be wonderful recreation, but sharing the catch with your dog can be an act of kindness that kills. 
Salmon Poisoning Disease is a potentially fatal condition seen in dogs that eat certain types of raw fish. Salmon (salmonid fish) and other anadromous fish (fish that swim upstream to breed) can be infected with a parasite called Nanophyetus salmincola. Overall, the parasite is relatively harmless. The danger occurs when the parasite itself is infected with a rickettsial organism called Neorickettsia helminthoeca. It’s this microorganism that causes salmon poisoning.

“Salmon poisoning occurs most commonly west of the Cascade mountain range,” says  Dr. Bill Foreyt, a veterinary parasitologist at Washington State University’s College of Veterinary Medicine. He adds, “Canids (dogs) are the only species susceptible to salmon poisoning. That’s why cats, raccoons and bears eat raw fish regularly with out consequence.”

Generally clinical signs appear within six days of a dog eating an infected fish.

One of the concerns with the 1999 USFWS wolf introduction feasibility study for releasing wolves in the Olympic Mountains is how many wolves will be killed by salmon...the salmon they want wolves so badly to save.

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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2012, 12:38:15 PM »
I live on the skagit, hasn't effected them yet.
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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2012, 12:58:04 PM »
I know all to well before even typing this that people will be getting all bent out of shape but hey if I have to read all your two cents I guess its okay to share mine. I have been reading about the wolves in Yellowstone etc. For a while and all while this was going on hunters basically begged to be able to hunt them as sport/control of issue. Now we have them moved into our area people are all bent. Understand they know no fences and can move wherever they like much like antelope from the reservation that now resides in all over. Where's the people mad about this and it's effect, cause I am sure there is like with all change there is a effect. So it almost sounds like people want complete removal of wolves from Washington or a immediate ability to hunt them. Its humorous to listen to how people get so mad when a change effects them directly but when its in there favor it all seems fine and everyone else fails to see the light. Just my  :twocents:

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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2012, 08:01:49 PM »
I know all to well before even typing this that people will be getting all bent out of shape but hey if I have to read all your two cents I guess its okay to share mine. I have been reading about the wolves in Yellowstone etc. For a while and all while this was going on hunters basically begged to be able to hunt them as sport/control of issue. Now we have them moved into our area people are all bent. Understand they know no fences and can move wherever they like much like antelope from the reservation that now resides in all over. Where's the people mad about this and it's effect, cause I am sure there is like with all change there is a effect. So it almost sounds like people want complete removal of wolves from Washington or a immediate ability to hunt them. Its humorous to listen to how people get so mad when a change effects them directly but when its in there favor it all seems fine and everyone else fails to see the light. Just my  :twocents:
Wolf lover just don't and probably can't see it from our side. We love hunting, seeing and having deer and elk in our wilderness- wolves will wipe them out. Wolves don't belong in our state, that's my opinion. We don't have the vast wilderness of Alaska or Canada to sustain wolf populations and keep a healthy deer and elk herd in the numbers we need to keep over the counter hunting in our state. You can take your wolves and.... well you know. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2012, 09:44:20 PM »
Chucknorris.  As I remember the Bio's in Yellowstone were complaining about the elk, not the hunters.  The Bio's were saying the elk were eating all the aspen and very well could of been.  If they would of allowed a specific number of elk to be removed by hunting (for a fee) then stop the hunt.   Problem solved.  NO, they brought in a cancer to kill the elk and once you get cancer started it has no limits.  Now the cancer has infected all the northern states and it is protected so it will continue till it kills everything in it's path.  I do predict that once it infects a few of the "Cancer supporters" the ban will be lifted and once again it can be controlled.  It will be a hard cancer to eradicate at that point.

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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2012, 10:25:01 PM »
Really, my labs eat salmon all time, doesn't kill them.  :dunno:

I was told by a vet there are two varieties of the disease and once a dog has had one of them, it's immune. Sort of like different measles in Humans.  It seems I remember it having something to do with the gills also. Maybe that's where the fluke that the rickettsia come from lives.  I've had three different dogs get it, one twice so it must have gotten both varieties. One was treated with tetracycline but the other two suffered it out and lived. All three dogs were husky/shephed mixes and all three loved salmon. Two were just miserable, the third and last one was a year old pup. He disappeared for about three days and we thought he'd been hit by a car or something. The 4th day he staggered into the yard and fell over in a high fever. He was delirious. We hydrated him and got him to the vet and he was the one who got the tetracycline. He came the closest to dying. Don't know if the drugs helped him or if he was past the worst of it when we found him. He got it from eating salmon out of the stream that ran through our property.
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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2012, 11:06:15 PM »
I live on the skagit, hasn't effected them yet.

Some streams the salmon don't have it. The parasite has to cycle through a fresh water snail in it's lifecycle. No snails no salmon sickness. The snails cannot live in very cold water.
Also adults dogs can catch it and live. Usually kills pups though if untreated.
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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2012, 05:10:40 PM »
Chucknorris.  As I remember the Bio's in Yellowstone were complaining about the elk, not the hunters.  The Bio's were saying the elk were eating all the aspen and very well could of been.  If they would of allowed a specific number of elk to be removed by hunting (for a fee) then stop the hunt.   Problem solved.  NO, they brought in a cancer to kill the elk and once you get cancer started it has no limits.  Now the cancer has infected all the northern states and it is protected so it will continue till it kills everything in it's path.  I do predict that once it infects a few of the "Cancer supporters" the ban will be lifted and once again it can be controlled.  It will be a hard cancer to eradicate at that point.

Make no mistake I am all game for being able to hunt them even if I have to buy a tag.



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Re: wolves!!
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2012, 02:33:46 PM »
Chucknorris.  As I remember the Bio's in Yellowstone were complaining about the elk, not the hunters.  The Bio's were saying the elk were eating all the aspen and very well could of been.  If they would of allowed a specific number of elk to be removed by hunting (for a fee) then stop the hunt.   Problem solved.  NO, they brought in a cancer to kill the elk and once you get cancer started it has no limits.  Now the cancer has infected all the northern states and it is protected so it will continue till it kills everything in it's path.  I do predict that once it infects a few of the "Cancer supporters" the ban will be lifted and once again it can be controlled.  It will be a hard cancer to eradicate at that point.

Make no mistake I am all game for being able to hunt them even if I have to buy a tag.


Idaho sells tags for under 40.00 have at it. I was hoping we would never get to hunt them here, but unfortunatly I think that will happen.
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