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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2012, 09:43:30 AM »
Interesting.. I know 2 guys shooting the gen 2 at around 2815 and having great luck.
I have read several bad reviews from te Gen 1 though.
When you buy the bullets you need to make sure you are not buying gen 1 bullets.  I also think that the suggested lower velocity makes the 338 Edge and RUM less attractive as those weapons were purchased for the higher speed.

The burger would deform on initial fire thus would cause accuracy issues.  Burger has fixed it and lowered their BC.

Wasnt that just in the super .338 mags?

Either way, they did fix it and lower their BC, but it's still .818 now which is higher than anything else Right?

nose slump was experienced with the 1st generation berger 300 grainers about 2800-2850 fps. so yeah probly mostly in super mags. it is fixed with the 2nd generation. berger still recomends around 2650 fps muzzle velocity for best accuracy. thats what they told my cousin with the 338-378 wby. thats where he is shooting them and is getting .6-.7 MOA out to 500 yards. loaded to magazine length.
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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2012, 09:50:29 AM »
The 338-378 wby is easily capable of.sending these at 2800+ but in our experience accuracy fell off. One call to Berger and they said slow.them down and see better accuracy. Maybe the rum/edge cases will be more accurate at higher velocity. This is just the information we received from.Berger when working a load for the wby accumark. Their testing of the same gun showed this and it also worked for my cousin. I don't have any experience withthe other 338 cartridges.

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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2012, 03:56:00 PM »
Running the Gen 2 Bergers at 2950 in my Edge with no accuracy issues at all.  The Gen 1's were not so pretty.
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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2012, 09:13:17 PM »
Running the Gen 2 Bergers at 2950 in my Edge with no accuracy issues at all.  The Gen 1's were not so pretty.
How do you think they are performing compared to other bullets you have shot from your edge?
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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2012, 07:30:08 AM »
They are just as accurate as the SMK.  Groups in the .1's and .2's are pretty common.  Using the same powder charge I get another 30fps with the Bergers.  The .818bc seems to be spot on out to 1200.  In order to get things to match up further I needed to input some additional bc's for some lower velocity bands in my pda.  Then things match up at the mile mark.  Not sure how they work on critters yet.  Will be testing that in 2012.  The downside is that they don't seem to like more than about .015" jump.  Better than the normal VLD style bullets, but not as friendly as the SMK's are.  Having used the SMK on alot of critters from close to really far, its performance on game has been perfect.  I am hoping for the same with the Bergers.  If the Noslers do have that high of a BC as stated, they should be a good bullet.  By the looks of them, I think its a little inflated, but we shall see.
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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2012, 08:24:48 PM »
I talked to Nosler today and they said I could have some .338 300gr Accubonds in hand by mid Feb. :tup:

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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2012, 09:01:07 PM »
I called to talk to my friend there and he was gone to one of the trade shows. Look forward to playing with them and a few other new toys :chuckle:
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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2012, 10:12:42 PM »
Do you know if the 300 grain will be cannelured?  I know they have some for 6.8, 9.3, .375 but since this is new I can't find info on it.  None of my .308 or .224 stuff is cannelured.

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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2012, 02:18:02 AM »
Do you know if the 300 grain will be cannelured?  I know they have some for 6.8, 9.3, .375 but since this is new I can't find info on it.  None of my .308 or .224 stuff is cannelured.

No, to my knowledge the majority of the standard Accubonds sold for reloading are non canular. Nosler does do many of the Accubonds with a canular for ammunition manufacturers. such as Winchester , Federal Etc.Which use a crimp on their factory loaded ammunition. I have purchased many Accubonds through Nosler that do have a canular, these were marked as seconds or they were sold to me as overruns/extras from ammuntion manufacturers orders. I have got smoking deals on new not seconds, canular Accubonds through Nosler that were over runs.

Such as .257 110gr Accubonds, I would buy them 500 or so at a time for almost half price. They weren't seconds, just overruns. I still have a bunch with canulars and all of the 110 Accubonds I have purchased locally do not have a canular. I also have a bunch of .30 cal 180gr Accubonds with a canular purchased the same way but all of the ones I purchased locally do not have a canular.

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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2012, 04:31:09 AM »
Yeah the picture in my book shows it not to have a cannelure. Like hammer said I am sure they will be making some with it for the ammo companies that load them. Not sure how many will be using the 300g in most of the loaded ammo.
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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2012, 04:36:11 AM »
Here is the picture so you guys know I am not crazy :chuckle:
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Re: For my 338 cal lovers!!!
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2012, 04:38:18 AM »
I had to keep it on the down low until stuff started to get printed :chuckle: So I have been waiting to post  :IBCOOL:
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