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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2012, 06:39:43 AM »
After watching the elk for over a week, limping around my place, I decided to contact the WDFW.  I sent a email to one of the peole listed at the bottom of one of the studies that were done and posted on the WDFW site (kristin Mansfield).  Asked lots of questions, got few answers. 

Basicly it sounds to me like the WDFW is hoping someone else has an answer, they have been in touch with Veterinarians all over the world, sounds like the university of washington and Washington state university have toyed with it a little.  There has never, ever, been a study done on a live elk that has been tagged/collared or anything close to being captive.  So basicly they haven't ever studied an elk that has recovered from hoof rot or tried to cure a live elk of the disease....Pretty impressive huh?.  Thats how little effort that has been put into it.  Doesn't sound like Mrs. Mansfield is very happy with their efforts either.

Copper/seliinium deficiencies have been far lower in healthy elk, so I doubt thats the problem.  The parasites on the hooves are pretty normal for an infected area that gets smashed on the ground all day.  They honestly still don't have a clue.  Not enough she said, to do any real testing.  I think the only way anything is going to get done is.......OCCUPY THE WDFW.  The government in this state sucks.

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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2012, 08:43:33 AM »
I bet some of the biologists feel the reason for hoof rot is a lack of wolves.   :o



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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2012, 08:47:24 AM »
Question for the people that have cattle with hoof rot.  What do you guys do when cows/goats whatever get hoof rot?  How come we don't see a bunch of limping cattle in the areas where the elk are limping?  Are elk just more susceptible to it?  Deer around here don't have it, but elk are having all sorts of issues with it....Kinda like the mange the deer around here had for a while (don't see it much anymore), but I never seen an elk one with mange like the deer had.  Sure odd that its such a growing problem in the last several years, but I never seen it once up til about 5 years ago.  Maybe it just took a while for the disease to figure out a way to start infecting elk.
  First off,there's two different thing's your looking at in the pics. The feet that are growing like a bad toe nail is from eating to much protein in the diet . The feet that look injured could be from foot rot??? Foot rot starts from a cut between the toe's and can swell extremely big. In cattle hoof rot is treated by giving a few shot's of penicillin. If it's truly foot rot there's not much you can do .. to capture and give shot's on that many animals won't happen..

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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2012, 08:49:02 AM »
Bobcat's probably right

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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2012, 08:49:05 AM »
I feel that Hoof Rot is the result of the elk being pushed around too much from hunters.   :peep:
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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2012, 09:06:37 AM »
I think Hoof rot comes from reading Gay Marriage and Poaching topics on Hunt-Wa..... :chuckle:
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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2012, 10:24:51 AM »
For some reason my feet are starting to hurt....    :dunno:

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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2012, 09:20:51 PM »
It would be kind of interesting to see if penicillin would work...on at least one elk.  The herds in the coweeman and battleground units that I have witnessed at less than 100 ft. through a hi powered spotting scope or hanging in a buddies shop have had different but obviously shared charactoristics...either hooves that are long and odd shaped or hooves that are almost gone down to a stub in the same herd.  I don't believe it is 2 different conditions that started at the same time.  I would just like a veterinarian to do some testing on a live animal to see if it is a curible disease, bab diet, genetic, aliens or whatever.  It would be nice to know, even if its not possible to give every elk with the hoof problem a shot.  This is just getting out of control.  I see it spread farther and farther....up in the hills now, completely away from farms and residences. 

I don't believe its spraying or pestisides by timber industries only because it hit the area closest to the private lands first....at least around here, but its growing at an allarming rate.  I don't know of a food that has changed around here in the last 5 years, but 5 years ago the elk were fine near my house.  I am also contacting the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, I'm a Life Member and for me this is more important than purchasing more habitat at this point.  Funding for this has got to come from somewhere and the RMEF is usually up to the task of trying to better our elk herds.  Maybe a letter with a donation.

I post about hoof rot quite a bit, just trying to get more people aware and this site has many members that are willing to speak up.  Something needs to be done....soon.

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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2012, 08:28:28 AM »
Once a pack of wolves show up you will not see any limper's..

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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2012, 10:55:38 AM »
WDFW needs to add another special permit to thin out the hoof rottin elk. Great revinue maker!  :chuckle:
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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2012, 11:09:37 AM »
WDFW needs to add another special permit to thin out the hoof rottin elk. Great revinue maker!  :chuckle:

They did that last year. Did you see all the cow elk permits given out for Coweeman, Toutle, and Winston?   :yike:


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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2012, 11:13:23 AM »
I think my wifes in trouble then! Shot cow with no hoof rot. Ill have her call WDFW and see if she can get another tag. :chuckle:
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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2012, 05:58:25 PM »
Here is a video taken last week in Winston.  Shows how bad this problem is.  Every elk in this herd has it.  Makes me sick

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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2012, 06:11:17 PM »
Such a shame.




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Re: Hoof Rot?
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2012, 06:19:08 PM »
Wow hate to see that.  Makes me wonder what action they will take to deal with this.  Wolves would clean em up quik but then we would have 200 hungry wolves! :yike:  I think they should open everything up including margaret and toutle for few seasons.  Its going to spread south and east next.  They gotta stop it by any means possible. :'(
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