The key was, I wanted a tent with a wood stove. My wood stove is about 70 lbs. The tent I'm planning on getting runs about 70 lbs. Suspect the rest of the gear would be about 70 lbs as well. That would be 3 trips in with 70 on my back, 3 trips out, and if I get an elk...sorry ran out of fingers. If I get an elk, which I plan on doing the fee to pack out is roughly the same. So pack in and out seems like a deal.