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Offline Michelle_Nelson

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2008, 05:32:45 PM »
 :rolleyes: You know what in a perfect world the only taxidermists that have a 2 year turn around should be the best in the industry.  Sorry guys it just doesn't work like that.  This isn't a perfect world!  I have seen really horrible work come from taxidermists with a 2 year back log.  Why because their too cheap and they attract the price shoppers.  So for any one to say "Ohhh, he must do great work because it takes 2 years" is really looking to get screwed. 

With that said I have seen really Great work come from taxidermists with a less than 1 year turn around.  I've seen crappy work come from full time and part time taxidermists alike.

Basicly what it boils down to is what "YOU" are looking for in a mount!  Most of you scout befor you go hunting don't ya?  Well don't go shoot something and than take it to the first taxidermist you look up in the phone book or to the taxidermist your buddy recomends.  Do your own reasurch!  Call a couple Taxidermists and ask them questions.  Look at their work.   When you look at their work ask to see customer work, NOT competition work.  Their is a world of difference. 


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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2008, 05:44:21 PM »
The best work I ever saw had been done by the cheapest buy in town.




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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2008, 06:11:55 PM »
The only thing I do different on a competition mount versus a customer mount is the septum, and I dont mean those cheap lookin speed septums. 

  Who said the only Taxidermists that have a 2 year turnaround are the best in the industry? That there is a whole other subject I dont want to get into.

 So Billy whos the Taxidermist?

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2008, 06:15:05 PM »
Bucklucky I was not refering to you when I made the competion work comment.  It was a generalized statement.  I know quite a few taxidermists that fill their show rooms with competition work to impress their customers.  When you compare their customer work to their competition work their is a big difference.

I said in a "perfect world" the only taxidermists to have a 2 year back log should be the best in the industry! 

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2008, 06:18:55 PM »
Gotcha!

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2008, 06:26:57 PM »
 :chuckle:  Your reading to fast!

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2008, 06:30:03 PM »
I thought you were ;) :)

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2008, 07:50:00 PM »
I had a bobcat tanned by the same taxidermist.  I was told 6 months to get it tanned.  I got it back in 13 months.  :dunno: Just my 2 cents.   He does do nice work so I cant complain about that.

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2008, 07:54:20 PM »
My experience is that it depends on the taxi and how much work they have.  Like Michelle suggested, you should do your homework before you drive off the mountain and stop to drop off your trophy.  

The more popular taxidermist are likely going to cost more and take longer to get your trophy back to you.  These are generally the taxi's that are in high demand and take in a lot of mounts and need time to get them done.

It takes a lot of time/work and a large number of mounts to make a decent living.  

On average I would guesstimate it takes a minimum of (Michell, Bucklucky, huntingcowboy, others correct me if I'm way off) 16 hours hands on work per shoulder mount.  This includes: phone call from customer, appointment for drop off, listen to hunters story/BS with them, paper work/down payment, flesh, turn eyes/ears/lips/etc, salt, resalt in a couple days, package to ship to tanner, pay tannery, deal with UPS person, order form/eyes/chem/clay/etc, receive shipping, prep the hide for mounting, prep the form, actually mount it, drying time, paint/finish/etc, contact customer, customer pickup/BS/paper work....done!  That is if everything is spot on....cape comes in great condition from the hunter, tanner does a great job, materials are correct and cape fits well, minimal modeling, hunter doesn't want to give his last 20 years of hunting experience, etc.  All that in a conservative 16 hours!

Now take into account expenses: form, chem, eyes, paste, shipping, tanning, bondo, glue, brushes, combs, needles, thread, knives, salt, clay, business license, business tax, lights, heat/ac, freezers, structures, business insurance, self-employed family medical/dental insurance, etc, etc, etc. Take a percentage out of that $500 deer mount you just got.  Not much left there for taxi wages so they have to take in as much as they can spread out the cost and make a legit business out of it.  

Now try this...take how much you pay your mechanic an hour to work on your car and times it by 16 hours and then add a conservative $100 for parts and tax.  Now, pay that to your taxidermist for that once and a lifetime trophy deer mount.  Surprised?  Not many people would get shoulder mounts for that price, so full time taxi's have to take in a lot of work to make it which in turn takes a lot of time to complete the finished product.  Part timers are a whole different story.        

I guess what I'm saying is have a good idea what the turn around time is before you drop it off and if you friend is willing to wait a little longer to get the quality he thinks this buck deserves and that this particular taxi will likely produce...relax and don't stress him out, it's his mount and let him enjoy the "it was worth the wait".

For those who think that there shouldn't be preferential treatment for VIP customers I think your missing the mark.....Just like any business (casino's, restaurants, even grocery stores) there are repeat customers that get preferential  treatment.  It's how the world turns.

Want preferential treatment.....bring in more work, appreciate their ability and TIP them if is a great job.  Their way under paid for the work they do!




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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2008, 08:02:46 PM »
RubblesPH your spot on!

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2008, 08:02:54 PM »
Ditto that.  way under paid for the art of taxidermy

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2008, 09:24:24 PM »
If a taxidermist is backed up that long they need to let the customer know. Also what about the taxidermist who doesn't work in order the animal was received but takes care of the larger customers first?

I let them know, but isnt that something the customer needs to ask before they drop something off?

  ANd the second question, I try and go down the list in order , but the capes dont always get done and back in order. So I do have to jump around a little bit. As for other taxidermists Big customers mean big money right, what would you do?

 I see your point on the big money customers, they would get taken care of first, thats just how things work.

as far as waiting times, I think its only good business to tell the customer up front how long it will take. I don't mean exact, I mean within 4-6 months. I have seen taxis tell people a year and 24 months later they haven't started the mount.

 As far as Alden I have had him do work for me and I am happy with the quality.

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2008, 09:28:19 PM »
Rubbles, Spot on man! Spot on.

$500.00 is a good price nowadays ;)

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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2008, 09:41:08 PM »
if taxis are underpaid, then most guides, not outfitters are pitifully underpaid!
i myself have never had an animal mounted. never had the jack to do it. see first sentance.
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Re: When is too long to wait for a mount?
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2008, 09:43:14 PM »
I cant even afford to go hunting, whos underpaid? :chuckle:

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