Author Topic: Black widow bow (Read 18533 times)

Camp David · « **on:** January 20, 2012, 12:24:33 PM »

I'm about to pull the trigger and buy a Black widow PCH 60" @ 52 pounds. I have done some traditional archery in the past. I'm a hoyt compound shooter now.
Your thoughts about the black widows?

724wd · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:12:11 PM »

i think they're ugly, but that's only my opinion. they have a GREAT reputation. i doubt you'll be disappointed...with your ugly bow

dreamunelk · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:55:55 PM »

I have a Black Widow long bow and absolutely love it. It is very pleasing to the eye

NoBark · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:56:51 PM »

They make great bows. Especially for being mass produced as compared to many other custom trad bows. I went with the blacktail, but hey, Blackwidow was on my list.

ribka · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2012, 07:29:38 PM »

Bought my first Black WIdow in in 1990. Good bow , great reputation and warranty. the owner Ken is a good guy.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2012, 07:50:33 PM »

I have shot 8 or 9 of them and always liked the way they shot. I figured I would end up with one of there bows. I just happen to have a friend who is building me a even better bow

I shoot a hoyt dorado and have had a game master before as well. The dorado is a killer recurve and for being a hoyt guy I would look at them. They also have a newer bow that Fred built/designed with them called the buffalo it is supposed to be a nice bow as well.

NWWABOWHNTR · « **Reply #6 on:** January 20, 2012, 08:01:21 PM »

Nice bows, but really think 52# is a little bit much for a 1st trad bow.... lets say you are currently shooting a 60# compound, at 80% let off... you are hoilding 12 pounds? I made the jump awhile ago, and started off at 50@28... well with my almost 30" DL, that turned into 58 at my fingers... adn developed some bad habits. Since then I bought a light bow (32#) to work and develope form with.... if you can get a clean release at 32#, then you will be awesome at higher poundages... best thing about a light DW bow, is the ability to practice for hours, and not have your form breakdown. I'd get the BW and also get a cheaper recurve that is a light poundage to train on... Now my opinion is the BW's are good bows, somewhat over rated, but still good bows.

JBar · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2012, 06:08:42 AM »

Great bows wish I would have never sold mine but... what do you do! I agree with the heavier poundage but you could also order a second set of limbs if the model you're looking at is a take down.

Camp David · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2012, 03:00:41 PM »

Thanks all. Great inputs and I'll take all of them into consideration before I pull the trigger on another bow.

wrongway · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2012, 08:28:52 PM »

you might take a look at Danny Crofts bows, he has been building them for a long time, If I remember they are called a critter gitter. He is a local guy, Doug might have is contact information at Great North West

dreamunelk · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2012, 08:37:06 PM »

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NWWABOWHNTR · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2012, 07:24:00 AM »

Quote from: wrongway on January 23, 2012, 08:28:52 PM

you might take a look at Danny Crofts bows, he has been building them for a long time, If I remember they are called a critter gitter. He is a local guy, Doug might have is contact information at Great North West

I'd get one of Danny's bows, it is the Critter Gitter, originally designed by Gerald Hickman (who still holds the IFAA World records for Trad). Doug at GNW can get you in touch with him, if not I can. Danny is one of the best shooters of a recurve in the US, and really knows his stuff.

quadrafire · « **Reply #12 on:** January 24, 2012, 08:27:45 AM »

I've always been kinda fascinated with that bow. I like the look in graybark. If you could swing it, go with two sets of limbs and like NW and JBar said get the other set alot lower for technique/practice/stumpshooting.

Camp David · « **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:15:12 AM »

I started doing a lot of reading (Advanced instinctive shooting for Bow hunters – Fred Asbel) on the traditional archery and listening to you guys also. One of the biggest issues one can have is with too much poundage; this really has an effect on form. I like the idea of having a hunting poundage and a “practice poundage” limbs. Might look into to see if I can swing it financially.

75johndeere · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:45:45 AM »

they have a program where you can test there bows its on there website you have to pay the price of the bow up front but they refund it after you send it back and it only cost you shipping might be a good way to see if the poundage is something you like or if you need to start lower

Machias · « **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2012, 04:06:41 PM »

You could always buy a Sapphire Hawk, this one has 59# set of limbs and a 48# set of limbs in absolute perfect condition. Extra string and bow case.

The zebra limbs on the right are 59#, the Shedua limbs on the left are 48#. Nice set of "getting to know the bow" limbs and a good, solid, carbon backed, rocket launching set....

The riser is Cocobolo and Bocote with maple and phenolic accents...

Machias · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2012, 04:08:17 PM »

Oh yea, it's a lefty though.

Camp David · « **Reply #17 on:** January 24, 2012, 04:15:05 PM »

Quote from: Machias on January 24, 2012, 04:08:17 PM

Oh yea, it's a lefty though.

Bummer...you had me thinking.

Machias · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2012, 09:23:24 PM »

Quote from: Camp David on January 24, 2012, 04:15:05 PM

Quote from: Machias on January 24, 2012, 04:08:17 PM
Oh yea, it's a lefty though.

Bummer...you had me thinking.

Sorry, I probably gave the impression I would sell it. I was saying maybe you could find one, like this one. I'd never sell this one.

NWWABOWHNTR · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2012, 09:47:18 PM »

GOod luck finding a Sapphire Hawk, I finally got lucky and found a used one, love that bow. Kirk Lavender of Bigfoot bows is making a bow off of Ernie's Sapphire Hawk lines... shoot pretty darn good and it is a looker too...

www.bigfootbows.com

click on his link "bows" and then click on the Splinter Kat.....

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:26:07 AM »

That is very true. That was the long bow I was going to buy I wanted to get one of his bows very very bad! I am having one made that will be even better thanks to a friend

hntr · « **Reply #21 on:** February 29, 2012, 08:55:29 AM »

Black Widow is a perfect choice, since it is probably the most popular brand of trad bow out there. I don't have one, but instead got a Predator recurve. I have a few longbows. I assume you want a recurve (?).

Poundage: I would get a minimum of 50lbs. I recommend 50-55lbs. This would serve you well for animals up to elk at reasonable distances. Get good matching and tuned arrows, etc...

I have shot up to 65lbs, which is too much for me when hunting and cold. I now shoot 55-57lbs.

wrongway · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:12:26 AM »

Dont sell the criter getters short, Danny builds a good bow, he use to shoot the Black Widow but not now.

Hornseeker · « **Reply #23 on:** March 02, 2012, 08:03:11 AM »

If I was gonna buy a bow right now I'd probably end up with one of the Big Foots that NWWA mentioned or a Whippenstic from Ken Rohloff....

The widows are fine bows... I've shot many and more and never disliked them, but in general, there are some customs that can really make the widow look ho hum... for about the same money or less... 2 of them, I mentioned above.

Shoot Fred, i thought you were selling too... given the "perfect condition" "string and case"...

Machias · « **Reply #24 on:** March 02, 2012, 09:19:10 AM »

Yea I didn't write that up very well!!!

Hornseeker · « **Reply #25 on:** March 03, 2012, 08:27:48 AM »

y'ought to kill yerself a lion or bobcat or something with that bow!!

Keep us posted on what ya do Camp David. As far as weight goes, its really a personal thing. A fact is that you will learn better shooting habits starting with a lighter draw bow, but I started with a 55# bow and never had any trouibles being a decent shot..

Good Luck

PS... if you look at classified ads on Trad Gang and such... you'll find a LOT of good deals on various bows.

Camp David · « **Reply #26 on:** March 04, 2012, 01:52:37 PM »

First, thanks for all of the advise and thoughts. I'm still reading and looking. Not sure I really want to spend the $1200 for a bow. I'll look through all of what is available on Trad Gang to see what that has to offer. Sure would be fun to chase turkeys with a Trad this year.

Hornseeker · « **Reply #27 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:02:01 PM »

There are tons of good options for WAY under 1200...

Heck, I think NWWA has a sweet bow for sale right now for like 600...

Also, some incredibly good value and interchangeable limb systems can be had at www.tradtecharchery.com They have some foreign made bows that will shoot with any Black Widow that can be had for 600-900 bucks.
An option I would look very seriously at is the Trad Tech Titan... for $1200 you could have an incredible riser and 2 sets of limbs...and enough money left to buy some arrows.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 05, 2012, 02:43:16 AM »

Here is a a list to a guys site that has some black widows for sale. A couple of them are really nice and a fair price

http://rmsgear.com/bowshop_inventory.htm

Camp David · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2012, 05:14:35 AM »

Found it! 2011 PSA X with cocobolo riser and curly bubinga limbs. 55# Tillered for split-finger and low wrist grip. Comes with Black Widow soft case and a side quiver. $1025.00 . Found it on Trad Gang. Now I need to get some bullets for it.

any thoughts?

Thanks for your help.

Hornseeker · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2012, 06:31:45 AM »

Well, it just really depends on what you really want to do. I personally shoot the Beman MFX Classics. Good looking arrow, nice and straight, fairly tuff...

If you want to go all trad....get some woodies made up. If you buy the MFX's, get the 500's unless you are looking to shoot a real heavy broadhead. Are you about 28" draw?

Nice bow....congrats!

Machias · « **Reply #31 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:34:54 AM »

VERY nice looking bow, congrats!!

NWWABOWHNTR · « **Reply #32 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:39:00 AM »

For woods...
http://elitearrows.com/

or
http://www.nwarchery.com/
These are made here in Wa by Suzanne St. Charles (daughter of Glenn).

quadrafire · « **Reply #33 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:05:13 AM »

Hornseeker · « **Reply #34 on:** March 10, 2012, 10:03:50 AM »

Well...what kind of arras you gonna get???

Flyinlongbow · « **Reply #35 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:13:36 AM »

Make your own out of wood shafts, it's very rewarding and you can really customize them.

Camp David · « **Reply #36 on:** March 14, 2012, 12:29:08 PM »

Hornseeker...I took your advise and bought the Beamans MFX Classic. Cabelas had them for $114 doz. Can't wait to shoot em

quadrafire · « **Reply #37 on:** March 14, 2012, 04:28:52 PM »

Don't forget you are better off with feathers shooting off the shelf like that bow is set up.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 14, 2012, 05:07:01 PM »

Quote from: Camp David on March 14, 2012, 12:29:08 PM

Hornseeker...I took your advise and bought the Beamans MFX Classic. Cabelas had them for $114 doz. Can't wait to shoot em

I shoot some of them and the golt tip trads as well good arrows. My gave is the arrow dynamics they are a heavy tapered carbon arrow and they shoot very very well.

Camp David · « **Reply #39 on:** March 15, 2012, 11:43:09 AM »

Q-Fire...yup they will have feathers...Thanks

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