threats to hunting

[Bigshooter]

you say liberals are the biggest threat, however I believe it was a conservative president that opened up all that BLM winter range to drilling in Montana and Wyoming.  My vote is habitat loss, I agree with who ever said, if the animals have no where to live we have nothing to hunt.  I also agree that most of the anti's don't have a clue about habitat, ecology or the natural order of things.  Most of them would rather save a rat than a human being, they disgust me. The anti's that is not the rats.

A conservative only by the name of the party he ran under.  Really and truely a liberal.  Same as McCain.

[Bigshooter]

you say liberals are the biggest threat, however I believe it was a conservative president that opened up all that BLM winter range to drilling in Montana and Wyoming.  My vote is habitat loss, I agree with who ever said, if the animals have no where to live we have nothing to hunt.  I also agree that most of the anti's don't have a clue about habitat, ecology or the natural order of things.  Most of them would rather save a rat than a human being, they disgust me. The anti's that is not the rats.

A conservative only by the name of the party he ran under.  Really and truly a liberal.  Same as McCain.

Also I think it was the LIBERALS that voted to ban hound hunting, baiting, and trapping in washington state.  I think it is LIBERALS that have closed bear hunting in something like 27 states.  And it will be LIBERALS that one day make all hunting illegal.  One animal and one state at a time. 

[Gobble]

Bigshooter-

Your Spot on!
The biggest problem we face are extremists, enviromental and liberal, the two seem to go hand in hand.

[Red Dawg]

or you could keep killing everything until they are not around anymore. i wonder if we are paying for our grandfathers mistakes.

[ThePascoKid]

I love the fact that when ever a republican F#@$'s up he's really a "liberal", not a conservative that F*$#ed up.  I agree with the fact that it was liberals that took our hound hunting and bear baiting, but I was talking about habitat loss.

[wastickslinger]

WOLVES

[MountainWalk]

to blame wolves as the number one threat is illogical.

[wastickslinger]

ok ok I pick the guy who wont let me kill wolves. 

You asked an opinion. I did not realize it was a pass fail exam. Nor did I realize it was so serious.I apologize. I fail.

[MountainWalk]

threats to hunting are very serious to me.   hunters pride themselves on logic-and we accuse anti hunters as illogical.  we hunters think that animal rights folks are do gooders who base their ideas on emotions, not sound science or fact.  alot of folks who hunt fall into this same trap with the whole wolf issue. im just asking folks to employ their logic, and base their answers on factual things.

to me, habitat loss is the most logical.

[bobcat]

Red Dawg, I get what you're saying but there are two types of people. There's the animal right fanatics that think animals should have all the rights that people have, and then you have your environmentalists, many of which are not against hunting and maybe some of them ARE hunters. The animal rights people are members of groups like PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) and the HSUS (Humane Society of the United States.) The environmentalists could be members of groups like The Nature Conservancy, the Sierra Club, Ducks Unlimited, the Rocky Mtn. Elk Foundation, Pheasants Forever, etc. I just think many times people get these two different types of people confused and they are not the same.

I think you have environmentalists mixed up with conservationists.

I don't think so. I think of all the groups I listed as the same thing. To me they're all environmentalists, which means they work towards protecting the environment and wildlife habitat. Sorry but I just don't see any difference between what the RMEF does and what The Nature Conservancy does. They both protect habitat and that is all that matters.

[Bigshooter]

Red Dawg, I get what you're saying but there are two types of people. There's the animal right fanatics that think animals should have all the rights that people have, and then you have your environmentalists, many of which are not against hunting and maybe some of them ARE hunters. The animal rights people are members of groups like PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) and the HSUS (Humane Society of the United States.) The environmentalists could be members of groups like The Nature Conservancy, the Sierra Club, Ducks Unlimited, the Rocky Mtn. Elk Foundation, Pheasants Forever, etc. I just think many times people get these two different types of people confused and they are not the same.

I think you have environmentalists mixed up with conservationists.

I don't think so. I think of all the groups I listed as the same thing. To me they're all environmentalists, which means they work towards protecting the environment and wildlife habitat. Sorry but I just don't see any difference between what the RMEF does and what The Nature Conservancy does. They both protect habitat and that is all that matters.

I think you would piss off a lot of conservationists if you called them environmentalists. 

And Bush is a liberal.  Said it before he was elected the first time.

[bobcat]

I think you would piss off a lot of conservationists if you called them environmentalists. 

Maybe, but I doubt it, and I wouldn't care anyway.

[billythekidrock]

I think you would piss off a lot of conservationists if you called them environmentalists. 

It's funny cause it's true. They probably would be upset, but in the end they really are the same, just with different end game agendas.

[edmondshunter]

lack of new hunters is to me the biggest threat to hunting as a whole.  Without new generations stepping up to fill the shoes of the older fellas, the industry, conservation, and habitat will continue to fall to the wayside.

I have one friend that I could talk into going hunting,  it is a dying tradition in the American family, for shame.

[luvtohnt]

I see the number one problem being lack of interest. As a young man I know for a fact that my generation is losing a grip on things that the "old timers" find interesting. Out of all of my 30 or so friends, 30 and under, I know 2 besides myself that hunt. That is a outrageous! Now of all my friends 31 and older I would have to say that roughly 70 percent of them are active hunters. Kids today are lazy and would rather practice hunting on a video game and buy meat at the store than get out there and hoof it to provide for themselves.

Now since I am studying Ecology at CWU, I have met many people and have found there is a minimal difference in enviromentalists and conservationists. Enviromentalists are all about preserving every aspect of the earth from water to air to the land itself, so hunting is a minimal thing to them because they work on a large scale. At least this is the feelings of the ones I am in contact with. Now Conservationists are all about conserving what wild lands we have left, and they understand hunting as an important tool to protect the land from over grazing. So in general the have the same mission in life, but sometimes the envirometalists can be more extreme.

Brandon