min pts to draw desert A or the swakane unit?

[muleracks]

One comment and one questions:

1.  Congratulations to KDume for harvesting the correct animal for his venison.  Going home with a young buck is not going to impress anyone plus the dry doe is better eating. Let the 2 and 3 year old bucks grow up and take home the doe.

2.  Have all of you guys responded to the wdfw survey?  What do you think of the idea of setting aside some permits for the "unlucky nimrods" who maxed out points and still can't get a permit?  I voted to set aside 25% of the permits for those guys.

[kirkl]

In most of those gmu's they only give anywhere from 5-25 tags so 25% isnt really helping. That would be 3 tags for the desert unit for the hundreds of guys who are maxed out.

[WDFW-SUX]

BAD IDEA.

[Ellensburg]

Yes, Washington squares your points. I don't know how many it takes, cause I haven't drawn it yet... 

squares your points?

[kirkl]

yes they square your points, if you have 2 points then its 2x2 and it give you 4 chances. 3 points, 3x3=9 chances. etc.

[Ellensburg]

wow that makes a lot of since. Is there any link that tells exactly how it works? cuz I thought I had it figured out but i didn't know about the squaring part.

[Curly]

wow that makes a lot of since. Is there any link that tells exactly how it works? cuz I thought I had it figured out but i didn't know about the squaring part.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,5534.0.html

[SkookumHntr]

---At least 25% as far as I'm concerned. I would like to see a guy who has put in for 15+ years to disagree!

[Curly]

What do you think of the idea of setting aside some permits for the "unlucky nimrods" who maxed out points and still can't get a permit?  I voted to set aside 25% of the permits for those guys.

I don't like the idea of setting aside permits.  If they had it that way from the beginning, then I'd be okay with it.  But those people that keep trying to draw Desert or Entiat or some of the other really popular unit have chosen to gamble and keep putting in for the almost impossible to draw units.  I almost always put in for Desert as #1 choice but then I'll put some easier to draw units down as 2, 3 and 4.  I'll probably never get drawn for Desert, but I still have a chance.......and I'm okay with losing my points every few years to draw some other unit that is not as popular.  Hell, I'm okay with all those guys continually applying for only the premium hunts and leaving some of the less popular ones for me to draw.

[SkookumHntr]

---Well sure the guys who don't have many or any points don't like it. Like I said I want to see somebody who has been putting in for 13 years and longer have a problem with a % of permits to them say they don't like it. If you blew your points on a lesser tag, well tuff $hit. At least you would know that the 25% pool applicants earned there tag!

[poulsbo]

whitetail hunted idaho last year with my buddies uncle hhe wasted two quilomene muley tags to hunt whitetail i told him he was nuts for doing so and it was a waste to draw them. you can hunt whitetail any year! he draws grat tags with min. pts it drives me insane. just lucky i guess

[Curly]

---Well sure the guys who don't have many or any points don't like it. Like I said I want to see somebody who has been putting in for 13 years and longer have a problem with a % of permits to them say they don't like it. If you blew your points on a lesser tag, well tuff $hit. At least you would know that the 25% pool applicants earned there tag!

---Well sure the guys that have max points will like the idea..........it will help their odds.  You won't find any of them that won't like that idea.  I say tuff $hit to them; why change the rules to accomodate them?  Its their choice to keep gambling on drawing the premium tag, and by looking at the odds, they should have figured that they may never draw.

[kirkl]

I have 12 points and could care less about the 25% since theres a ton of guys out there with max points.

[WDFW-SUX]

If you started in the very first year of Washingtons point system a "max" pool draw might help you one time in your life and decrease your odds of ever drawing a tag again. If you are 1 point behind you will never be in the max pool. If your goal is to hunt a late muley hunt one time and you have 14 points this year its a good idea.... If you want to hunt a late hunt more than once over 50 years it a terrible idea.

Older hunters are the one who benefit from max pools everyone else suffers.

Given how poor the odds are for washington's good late muley hunts are I don't understand why anyone would want to make them worse for themselves and everone else.

[Skyvalhunter]

Tell that to some of the other states that do it.