Just moved to Washington from Michigan

[bucklucky]

 

[Curly]

I agree with Pope on this one

+1

I felt the same way too.  I'm glad you wrote what you did, Pope.  I could not have said it as well, but I was thinking about typing something.

[andrew_12gauge]

well john good luck with the elk hunting. most of the east side is going to be spike only or cow with a few exceptions, so in washington if you wanna hunt big bulls youre probably gonna have to hunt roosies on the wet side. as far as rocky mountain bulls are concerned u could hunt oregon or idaho on over the counter tags in most units and hunt big bulls. whatever you choose to do enjoy and good luck

[M_ray]

Yeah John Andrew is right if you want to hunt a branch bull your best shot at it is West side WA or Oregon but in Oregon keep in mind it's over the counter Archery and must be purchased before the start of that tags season, I think there are General season any wepon tags in some units in Idaho as well. Otherwise it's mostley Spike hunting with a Muzzleloader or rifle on the east side of WA. Everything in Oregon with a rifle is draw only even for Residents.

[Wea300mag]

It sounds like he didn't actually guide him on this hunt, but helped him out from time to time, so they thought it appropriate to show this buck on their site as if he was on one of their guided hunts.      

I guess I am kind of biased.  I had a friend e-mail sherman creek about a year ago about a hunt.  They took almost two weeks to get back to him and left him a one sentence message stating they were full. 

 

What a zipper head!!! I think you have this site confused with MM.


 

[MountainWalk]

i dont think that fellow really meant to imply  shadiness... it may have been an honest mistake.  sounds like he was just wanting to know what was up.. kick em, but not too hard... i may be wrong.

[scudmaster]

My  as I don't know any of the personalities involved and I assume they are both honest and forthright people.

Seems to me Bowshooter was asking for clarification about pictures on the SC site.  He backed off from the accusatory language on the second post.  After hearing the story and seeing the pics, they seem a bit misleading as there is no description on the site about their origin or relation to SC.

If they are not described as not being from guided hunts, the natural assumption is that they are. If the Black Diamond elk is not even on land they guide on, this would make me wonder, without a explanation, as to why it is there.  Bowshooter has obviously done his homework as he was able to recognize the photos from other publications.  Full disclosure by outfitter would seem to prevent this problem.  A short caption under each photo would sufice.

I know there is more to this with personal histories involved, but being new to the site and not having the history you all do with outfitter or BowShooter, seems like you are all jumping on BowShooter for an honest question and observation because of a personal bias towards outfitter. 

This is just from an outsiders perspective of course.

[Ray]

My 

There tends to be an emerging group of usernames which become registered only for people to make critical attacks or otherwise bring a potentially negative spotlight on another person here without all the facts being hashed out. These folks often times change thier user profile (the email field) and then never re-validate their username. I think if you're going to be that critical about someone and then try to change your contact name and later do not validate your email;  instead you might be the user or person which appears to be less than open.

[Yeti]

So, I am learning the lingo.  Sounds like if I want to learn to hunt elk, go after the spikes or cows and do it at least once. Then go after the big bull (branch elk?) in the lower swampy areas?  Unless I choose to go out of state.

My goal is a self guided hunt, with a successful bow shot.

Are Roosevelt smaller than Rocky Mountain elk?

[billythekidrock]

So, I am learning the lingo.  Sounds like if I want to learn to hunt elk, go after the spikes or cows and do it at least once. Then go after the big bull (branch elk?) in the lower swampy areas?  Unless I choose to go out of state.

My goal is a self guided hunt, with a successful bow shot.

Are Roosevelt smaller than Rocky Mountain elk?

Yes, get a couple hunts under your belt and take the first legal animal you can.

[Curly]

Roosevelt elk typically have larger bodies.  Their antlers don't usually get to be as large as Rocky Mountain elk.

[Yeti]

I have done my fair share of quartering deer, because most of my hunting spots were a miles from any one and the closest road.  I am used to packing out about 60-80lbs of meat/bones.   With an Elk and me by myself i should expect two trips minimum? 

Also am I boning in the field or just quartering and taking the straps, neck and tenderloin?  How much freezer space should I need?

Do I need a hunting partner or can I do it on my own and not spoil meat?

[popeshawnpaul]

4 trips minimum if you get all the meat...

[M_ray]

4 + trips and a partner is a smart chioce especially in the aearly season so you'll be sure to save the meat!

[bucklucky]

4 + trips and a partner is a smart choice especially in the early season so you'll be sure to save the meat!

Sounds like you just volunteered to help pack mine out this year