Proposed Turkey Hunting Changes

[CoryTDF]

I like #4

[Tom Tamer]

  Definitely a double Yeah that for Wac. Comments. The state finds it easier to just write more predation tags than to wrok with anyone within the state for the betterment of Turkeys. Their stance is they're non Native and a pest. The gentleman that may take over the upland dept has benn quoted that he feels turkeys are to blame for the reduction of grouse numbers in the NE. That being said most if not all of you on here know how factless that basis is. So this is what we're going to continue to be fighting. I've also heard form a good source of mine at the WDFW that they will also open a fall season in the Teanaway unit. So I for see the same problem happening there. Forcing more birds to private land and increasing the complaints there too. I think we as Turkey enthusiast are in for some rougher waters in the future. Hopefull we can stand strong together and fight this.

[yelp]

Definitely a double Yeah that for Wac. Comments. The state finds it easier to just write more predation tags than to wrok with anyone within the state for the betterment of Turkeys. Their stance is they're non Native and a pest. The gentleman that may take over the upland dept has benn quoted that he feels turkeys are to blame for the reduction of grouse numbers in the NE. That being said most if not all of you on here know how factless that basis is. So this is what we're going to continue to be fighting. I've also heard form a good source of mine at the WDFW that they will also open a fall season in the Teanaway unit. So I for see the same problem happening there. Forcing more birds to private land and increasing the complaints there too. I think we as Turkey enthusiast are in for some rougher waters in the future. Hopefull we can stand strong together and fight this.

Can you send me a PM with the name of the gentleman you talked with at WDFW?  Thanks.

[Dhoey07]

If they want more turkeys shot, lower the f ing price to shot one.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Same old story....all the turkeys will eat the frogs ..all the turkeys will eat the snails and on and on .....The way this state is headed at this time they should be thankful we have turkeys and the amount of revenue it pulls in.... alot of our resourses are going to sheet !!! just wait until we have wolves eating everything in sight 

[BOWHUNTER45]

I like #4

I AGREE WITH THAT 

[Dhoey07]

Well turkeys aren't native to this state, i guess we Should kill them all

[Wacenturion]

"The gentleman that may take over the upland dept has benn quoted that he feels turkeys are to blame for the reduction of grouse numbers in the NE."


If that is the case, then why do grouse even occur in states where turkeys are native.  Of course it's easier to blame turkeys than to actually figure out what to do for grouse.  Surprised they don't blame Bush.  Tell you what, if I'm a grouse or a small bird up in the NE, I'm damn glad I have those big rack footed turkeys scratching up areas around trees so I can get something to eat in the cold of winter.  Good grief, where did common sense go?  With all the research being done on turkeys in this country there is no evidence showing a negative impact on other wildlife.  Just the opposite in many cases. 

That's always the "sky is falling" approach all these idiots take.  They just throw out garbage like that and fail to back it up with data.  They just speculate on the negative and promote it, knowing they can make the argument without actually having to do anything. 

Typical environmentalist...greener....hugger approach.  They never have to prove anything, just throw it out there like it is real.  Absolute BS! 

[turkeydancer]

 
And when you talk to these "experts", they already have in their mind what they want to do no matter what anyone else recommends or can prove ....
    

[Wacenturion]

And when you talk to these "experts", they already have in their mind what they want to do no matter what anyone else recommends or can prove ....
    

Exactly!

[yelp]

 GGRRRR.....    2 toms in spring, 1 early fall, 2 beardless fall and 1 late fall.  4 birds in the fall per person.  WOW..pathetic.  This is how you manage a resource? 

Double parethesis are cross outs in proposals...found here..

http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/2012/wsr_12-04-098.pdf


WILD TURKEY:
YOUTH SEASON
LEGAL BIRD: Male turkeys and turkeys with visible beards only.
SEASON DATES: April ((3-4, 2010)) 7-8, 2013; April ((2-3, 2011)) 6-
7, 2014; April ((7-8, 2012)) 4-5, 2015.
SPRING SEASON
LEGAL BIRD: Male turkeys and turkeys with visible beards only.
SEASON DATES: April 15 - May 31, ((2009, 2010, 2011, 2012)) 2013,
2014, 2015.
BAG LIMIT: The combined spring/youth season limit is three (3)
birds. Only two (2) turkeys may be killed in Eastern Washington,
except only one (1) may be killed in Chelan, Kittitas, or Yakima
counties. One (1) turkey may be killed per year in Western
Washington outside of Klickitat County. Two (2) turkeys may be
killed in Klickitat County.
FALL NORTHEAST BEARDLESS TURKEY SEASON
LEGAL BIRD: Beardless only.
LEGAL HUNTER: Open to all hunters with a valid turkey tag.
OPEN AREA: GMUs ((105-124)) 105-142.
SEASON DATES: ((Sept. 26 - Oct. 9, 2009; Sept. 25 - Oct. 8, 2010;
Sept. 24 - Oct. 7, 2011)) Sept. 22 - Oct. 12, 2012; Sept. 21 - Oct.
11, 2013; Sept. 20 - Oct. 10, 2014.
BAG LIMIT: Two (2) beardless turkeys (in addition to other fall
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turkey harvest).
EARLY FALL GENERAL SEASON
LEGAL BIRD: Either sex.
LEGAL HUNTER: Open to all hunters with a valid turkey tag.
OPEN AREA: GMUs 101, ((127-133)) 124-142, 145-154, and 162-186.
SEASON DATES: ((Sept. 26 - Oct. 9, 2009; Sept. 25 - Oct. 8, 2010;
Sept. 24 - Oct. 7, 2011)) Sept. 22 - Oct. 12, 2012; Sept. 21 - Oct.
11, 2013; Sept. 20 - Oct. 10, 2014.
BAG LIMIT: One (1) turkey ((during the early fall general and permit
hunting seasons combined)) either sex (in addition to other fall
turkey harvest).
FALL PERMIT SEASONS
LEGAL BIRD: Either sex.
LEGAL HUNTER: All hunters who are selected in the fall turkey
special permit drawing and who possess a valid turkey tag.
Hunt Name
Permit Season
Dates
Special
Restrictions
Boundary
Description Permits Bag Limit.*
Klickitat Sept. ((26 - Oct.
9, 2009, Sept.
25 - Oct. 8,
2010, Sept. 24 -
Oct. 7, 2011))
22 - Oct. 12,
2012, Sept. 21 -
Oct. 11, 2013,
Sept. 20 - Oct.
10, 2014
Either sex GMUs 382,
388, 568-578
150 1
Methow Nov. 15 - Dec.
15, ((2009,
2010, 2011))
2012, 2013,
2014
Either sex GMUs 218-231
and 242
50 1
.*BAG LIMIT: During the early fall general and permit hunting seasons
combined.
LATE FALL SEASON
LEGAL BIRD: Either sex.
LEGAL HUNTER: Open to all hunters with a valid turkey tag.
OPEN AREA: GMUs ((105-124)) 105-142, 149-154, 162-186.
SEASON DATES: Nov. 20 - Dec. 15, ((2009, 2010, 2011)) 2012, 2013,
2014.
BAG LIMIT: One (1) turkey.
HUNTER EDUCATION INSTRUCTOR INCENTIVE PERMITS
LEGAL BIRD: Male turkeys and turkeys with visible beards only.
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LEGAL HUNTER: Qualified hunter education instructors who are
selected through a random drawing. Qualifying hunter education
instructors must be certified and have been in active status for a
minimum of three consecutive years, inclusive of the year prior to
the permit drawing. Instructors who are drawn, accept a permit,
and are able to participate in the hunt, will not be eligible for
these incentive permits for a period of ten years thereafter.
OPEN AREA: Statewide.
SEASON DATES: April 1 - May 31, ((2009, 2010, 2011, 2012)) 2013,
2014, 2015.
PERMITS: 2.
OFFICIAL HUNTING HOURS FOR WILD TURKEY:
HUNTING HOURS: One-half hour before sunrise to sunset during spring
and fall seasons.
SPECIAL REGULATIONS FOR WILD TURKEY:
1. Turkey season is open for shotgun shooting #4 shot or smaller,
archery, and muzzleloader shotgun shooting #4 shot or smaller.
2. A turkey tag is required for hunting turkey.
3. It is unlawful to use dogs to hunt turkeys.
4. It is unlawful to bait game birds.

[Tom Tamer]

Amen to that Wacent.Can't count how many times I've seen grouse poop inside Turkey scratchings, or kicked up grouse in those areas. But it again shows what we're up against. I'm a little scared for the future of Turkeys in Wa. Right now. If we can't get some one in the higher up reaches of the WDFW to see our concerns I think they'll let them be hunted like grouse or crows pretty soon 

[BOWHUNTER45]

holy sheet Yelp ... that took some time to spell out  I do not know antmore about washington....it is really hard to imagine what our kids are going to witness !!!!!!!

[Gobble Doc]

A reminder for everyone to go get their Discovery Pass before eliminating the turkey population.