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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2012, 08:05:13 PM »
Wow! There was so much blood in the water no one even noticed my post! Come on people........ KOLAR! Stop thumping Mr56jeep around and  :drool: over KOLAR!

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I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2012, 08:07:36 PM »
Gotta watch out for those Internet police!!!  :chuckle:

Ya, I guess ... Sheeeeeesh!!!

But I think I asked for that one    :chuckle:




I really don't give a chit if you shoot geese with lead or any other material for that matter. It isn't going to hurt a damn thing!!!

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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2012, 10:12:38 PM »
I was just curious why he was shootin geese with 00 buck and slugs :dunno:
What would life be without the thrill of the hunt?

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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2012, 08:05:21 PM »
Someday, I would love a good over and under that fits right and shoots great. In the mean time while I still have kids in the woods with me I will stick with my old 870. I kills almost everything I point it at and I tend ti use a little more aiming time than with my semi-autos  :dunno:.

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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2012, 06:05:37 PM »
Husqvarna side by side 20 ga. would be my first choice. First shotgun I ever shot at 8 yrs old and remember blasting a tin can to smitherings in mid air.. So if anyone has one or knows of one for sale for a reasonable or trade let me know

I don't know of any in 20ga, but I know of several Husky hammer guns available in 16ga, which is a much better all around upland gauge than 20ga anyway.  And yes, ammo is easy to find if you look for it.  Here's my Husky 44 (only one of its kind I know of):




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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2012, 06:32:43 PM »
Oh man that's a sweet one fethrduster and pics too  :tup: I  take it yours a 16 ga also? I have no problem with a 16. Send me a pm about the others if you want.
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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2012, 06:59:13 PM »
Yep, it's a 16.  Pm sent.

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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2012, 05:05:44 PM »
wingmaster.  20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.
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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2012, 06:44:59 PM »
My Husqvarna 51(built in 1940) but it's my duck gun with ITX shot.  That Husqvarna 44 is just beautiful.  20ga are pretty rare.

After the first shot the rest are just noise.

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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2012, 07:53:06 PM »
wingmaster.  20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.
IMHO it is not what you shoot, but more of how you shoot. On the the WW Pheasant Release sites (Ft. Lewis, Scatter Creek, & Skookumchuck); I hunt w/my 20ga SxS and cleanly harvest birds out to 40 yards with these two loads..........
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #4 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 4)
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #3 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 3)
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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2012, 08:20:10 PM »
wingmaster.  20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.
IMHO it is not what you shoot, but more of how you shoot. On the the WW Pheasant Release sites (Ft. Lewis, Scatter Creek, & Skookumchuck); I hunt w/my 20ga SxS and cleanly harvest birds out to 40 yards with these two loads..........
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #4 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 4)
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #3 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 3)

 :yeah: I will add that over a pointing dog a 28gauge is more than adequate for a release site pheasant (unless they start acting like wild birds). for this coming pheasant release season I think Im going to just stick with the 28 and hand loads for long tails. I usually pack around a 12 just incase I can scratch down a duck or a goose, but my Gordon setter told me last season that waterfowl are not in his contract and he will not touch them under any circumstances.... sooooo im just gonna stick with the light artillery and be Mr. coolguy with the 28gauge. 8)
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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2012, 07:33:36 AM »
wingmaster.  20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.
IMHO it is not what you shoot, but more of how you shoot. On the the WW Pheasant Release sites (Ft. Lewis, Scatter Creek, & Skookumchuck); I hunt w/my 20ga SxS and cleanly harvest birds out to 40 yards with these two loads..........
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #4 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 4)
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #3 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 3)

 :yeah: I will add that over a pointing dog a 28gauge is more than adequate for a release site pheasant (unless they start acting like wild birds). for this coming pheasant release season I think Im going to just stick with the 28 and hand loads for long tails. I usually pack around a 12 just incase I can scratch down a duck or a goose, but my Gordon setter told me last season that waterfowl are not in his contract and he will not touch them under any circumstances.... sooooo im just gonna stick with the light artillery and be Mr. coolguy with the 28gauge. 8)

Stilly, are you shooting Nice Shot or ITX in your 28?  I agree that just about any shotgun will work on release site pheasants out to normal ranges.  My 6.6lb Lefever 12ga was a death stick on ditch parrots for me last year (I went 12 for 12 with it), but it should be, getting to use 2.5"  #5 tungsten/matrix loads and all:






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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2012, 06:45:13 PM »
wingmaster.  20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.
IMHO it is not what you shoot, but more of how you shoot. On the the WW Pheasant Release sites (Ft. Lewis, Scatter Creek, & Skookumchuck); I hunt w/my 20ga SxS and cleanly harvest birds out to 40 yards with these two loads..........
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #4 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 4)
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #3 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 3)

 :yeah: I will add that over a pointing dog a 28gauge is more than adequate for a release site pheasant (unless they start acting like wild birds). for this coming pheasant release season I think Im going to just stick with the 28 and hand loads for long tails. I usually pack around a 12 just incase I can scratch down a duck or a goose, but my Gordon setter told me last season that waterfowl are not in his contract and he will not touch them under any circumstances.... sooooo im just gonna stick with the light artillery and be Mr. coolguy with the 28gauge. 8)

Stilly, are you shooting Nice Shot or ITX in your 28?  I agree that just about any shotgun will work on release site pheasants out to normal ranges.  My 6.6lb Lefever 12ga was a death stick on ditch parrots for me last year (I went 12 for 12 with it), but it should be, getting to use 2.5"  #5 tungsten/matrix loads and all:



fethrduster... you have some very nice toys!

back when you could still fling lead at scatter creek and skookumchuck I would use  one ounce #7's ( I don't remember the exact recipe at the moment) and it would drop em like they're hot. I also had a good stock pile of bismuth at the time and shot a slightly different load (7/8th #5's I think) that I really believed in for pheasants. they were both more of a 20 gauge sized load, but man did they pattern well out of that little 28.
   its been about five  years since I toted the the 28 for the release sites, and it seems the bismuth has all dried up ( probably a good thing) and I haven't been too impressed with any 28gauge steel load that I have tried - SO I will be dabbling with the NICE shot you mentioned or maybe an alternative.... for some reason I have a hard time paying $75 for 25 shells, so instead I will be going the reloader route, and make so Im only paying $115 for 25 :chuckle:
    for grouse on the wetside I use 3/4oz #7's all season long, but the way things are going I want to find a good affordable nontox alternative to keep around.
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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2012, 01:54:13 PM »
Stilly, boy, I know what you mean.  The cheapest I can get non tox other than steel reloaded for is about $45/box not counting labor, and you still have the big investment up front.  Precision reloading does sell nice shot in 1lb increments though I think.  That might be a good way to stick your toe in.  The Kent load I like is $65/box, and I still have to buy a box to get me through this season.  Ouch!  Still makes more sense though than spending hundreds on a new modern gun just so I can save $40 on ammo. 

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Re: just one upland gun.
« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2012, 06:20:47 PM »
  Ouch!  Still makes more sense though than spending hundreds on a new modern gun just so I can save $40 on ammo.

I think im done trying to save a buck or two in this sport, and hopefully be done complaining about it ( :chuckle:), Im just going to pay the piper, and do what ever it takes to enjoy my time afield with my dogs and not stress about prices anymore than I have to. all my bitchen hasn't amounted to a hill of beans so far.  I will be like that tweaker selling stolen ball point pens on the street corner, but instead of meth I will be buying tungsten. :chuckle: :chuckle:

 these insane non toxic shot prices aren't  getting any cheaper. I could see if we were blowing some kind of precious metal out of the end of our barrels, but these are all alloys cooked up in a lab.

the crappy part is that these $75 for a box of 25 shells are going to set a new standard for what people are willing to pay. its like the fuel monopoly, they aren't going to sell it at a profit they are going to sell it for whatever price people are going to put up with. :hello:




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