Proposed Legislation: Discover Pass Fine $

[Elkaholic daWg]

 It's things like that where I strongly disagree with many  about giving all agency enforcers full authority. So muskrat could get a citation of infraction. If  he does, he is either forced to pay or drive 750 miles to defend himself in Republic. What other choice does he have, thanks to big brothers appetite for$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Curly]

This bill could just encourage DNR, Park, and WDFW law enforcement to write more tickets.  I can see it  now, pulling over people to check for a DP which by the current law is required WHILE DRIVING.  I think we are stuck with the pass and after listening in on the current bills, and the crying and whining from the Park Dept. about how they couldn't afford any price reductions or hunter-exemptions I think that the only improvement we will see is two cars instead of one.  Personally I like the bill that limits the DP to developed sites on DNR land (not wide open timberland).  That way, if you use a DNR campground or picnic area you need one, but if you are just driving or hunting you don't.  Easier to enforce, safer,  not exemptions for tribal hunters, loggers etc. ( The DNR has to hand out lots of free passes now because of all the people who have business/tribal rights on DNR land).  This change (limiting to developed sites) could be DNR policy w/o a law change....but you know that won't happen.

I agree with this entire post, but the part I bolded I especially like.

I hate the fact that the State Parks dept has been so mis-managed over the years that they have to come-up with this DP b.s. to try to stay afloat.  I think State Parks dept needs to figure out another method to make it work out.  There has to be more personnel cuts they can make and other things they can do instead of taking 84% of the DP revenue.

[Special T]

Well here in lies the major part of the problem. camping spaces make $$$ Parks that do not have camping spaces cost lots of $$$. Not all parks are created equal. There are several in E-WA that are very good because they get heavy use in the spring-summer and then close down for the fall-winter. They have lower overhead and generate more cash to support themselves. I don't necessarily think its mismanagement as much as trying to do too much with less resources. The state needs to trim the number of state parks to the ones that are cost effective, and-or find a way to make expensive parks pay. If there is a park that could generate more revenue by adding more camping spaces THEN DO IT! They aren't that expensive to make, and people are willing to pay to park their trailer there... I know that the Wa parks is trying to preserve the parks, but if no one is able to enjoy them, then what good is it to preserve them? 

[Wenatcheejay]

The DP ( ) is all about screwing hunting and fishing in my opinion.

It is about a fair and general tax to move away from the North American Model and into a general self sustaining ecosystem program who's main objectives move away from sustainable harvestable game and into a balanced natural scene.

It's OK though. I know it's the future.

[buckfvr]

DP be damned.......stick that pass in a dark hole in Olympia........Im tired of corrupt politicians separating us from our money......Im  all for cutting the head off the dragon and starting over.......muck them all out now!!!!!!

[BOWHUNTER45]

Hey I saw it all today...   coming down along the river I saw discover pass required in PULL OFF SPOTS along the river ...NO NOT PARKING LOTS ....PULL OFF SPOTS ...... I guess someone will be taken a swim if I am park there  I will never buy one 

[Sitka_Blacktail]

I think the State is double dipping charging you twice for the same thing with the Discover Pass and WDFW Vehicle Use Permit.  If a hunter has a WDFW Vehicle use permit, that should exempt them from having to pay for the Discover Pass.

[Wenatcheejay]

I think the State is double dipping charging you twice for the same thing with the Discover Pass and WDFW Vehicle Use Permit.  If a hunter has a WDFW Vehicle use permit, that should exempt them from having to pay for the Discover Pass.

 

[Bunny Thumper]

Does anyone know what the fine is if you get caught without one?

[bobcat]

Does anyone know what the fine is if you get caught without one?

I think it's $99 if you are cited while parked, and $200 if cited while driving.

[bigtex]

Looks like this legislation will PASS. It passed the senate with only 6 "nay" votes. It is now in the house. The six senators who voted against it were: Baumgartner (R), Becker (R), Ericksen (R), Holmquist (D), Newbry (D), King (R), and Padden (R). Senator Pflug (R) was excused.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Does anyone know what the fine is if you get caught without one?

I think it's $99 if you are cited while parked, and $200 if cited while driving.

Now that's funny..... Can't they figure out that you had to drive there to park there? No common sense with that crowd.

[bobcat]

Does anyone know what the fine is if you get caught without one?

I think it's $99 if you are cited while parked, and $200 if cited while driving.

Now that's funny..... Can't they figure out that you had to drive there to park there? No common sense with that crowd.

I know, isn't that ridiculous?   

[marlin]

You know, Im upset that I bought the 2 discover passes that I have.. because I wanted to be "legal" and not get a ticket... I dont like dealing with LEO's if I dont have to..
 Anyways. Im upset because I dont see many other people with discover passes. I am constantly out in capitol forest going shooting and whatnot, and I see tons of cars and trucks out there, but not many discover passes. I feel like since I spent 60 bucks for 2 passes, to avoid getting harassed by cops and wardens, and getting tickets, other people should have the damn pass, and they should be enforcing it. I havent seen any enforcement going on. So far they have been a waste of money..

[Sitka_Blacktail]

You know, Im upset that I bought the 2 discover passes that I have.. because I wanted to be "legal" and not get a ticket... I dont like dealing with LEO's if I dont have to..
 Anyways. Im upset because I dont see many other people with discover passes. I am constantly out in capitol forest going shooting and whatnot, and I see tons of cars and trucks out there, but not many discover passes. I feel like since I spent 60 bucks for 2 passes, to avoid getting harassed by cops and wardens, and getting tickets, other people should have the damn pass, and they should be enforcing it. I havent seen any enforcement going on. So far they have been a waste of money..

Ahhh yes, misery loves company.

On a bright note, I've heard a rumor the State is rethinking the discover pass because not near as many people as they thought are buying them. Making people buy one for each vehicle they own is ridiculous too.  Pretty soon the State will find the limit that people are willing to put up with and find a revolt on their hands.