Hunting with a bow during muzzleloader season

[dreamingbig]

Grundy,

I brought up the competition for special permits and hunting pressure but it has been buried.  Most bowhunters aren't going to switch and buy a muzzy tag but they will be more likely to put in for a special permit in muzzleloader season if they draw a multiseason tag and can now use their bow.  I think some of my second cow tags would be in muzzleloader season as an example if I had the multiseason permit.

[pianoman9701]

Grundy,

I brought up the competition for special permits and hunting pressure but it has been buried.  Most bowhunters aren't going to switch and buy a muzzy tag but they will be more likely to put in for a special permit in muzzleloader season if they draw a multiseason tag and can now use their bow.  I think some of my second cow tags would be in muzzleloader season as an example if I had the multiseason permit.

[JimmyHoffa]

I guess I am in the camp of standard muzzys being less/equal to modern compounds.  Modern muzzys are still mostly ahead of modern compounds.  There have been some revolutionary advances in compound bows and accessories over the last decade.  I am seeing carbon-fiber bows that don't look like bows anymore, more like something Predator would use to kill Alien.  Bow speeds to what the 380's, all the guys talking about 100-120 yard shots (but tell everyone how they hunt to get close), all kinds of silencing equipment, quick adjust sights that can get a person to 100 yards with little practice (Accupin), etc.  The new bows, in my opinion, in an overall ranking are equal to or exceed the basic muzzys (sidelocks, carbines, etc.).  The advanced muzzys I will agree have the speed to fire and range that give them an overall advantage, but they did so by basically turning them into a modern rifle that looks like a muzzy.  I would say that there shouldn't be an issue to allow at least the traditional muzzys in archery season if it is all about equal/lesser weapons.

[bobcat]

I would say that there shouldn't be an issue to allow at least the traditional muzzys in archery season if it is all about equal/lesser weapons.

I could go along with flintlocks being allowed during archery season.   

[dreamingbig]

Good April fools joke!

[washelkhunter]

I could go along with flintlocks being allowed during archery season.   
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uhuh: You have to include No: 11 caps as well; but im cool with the sidelock. But if you want to hunt with a bow, then during ML you have to use wood bows and wood arrows and feather fletching ONLY.

[huntnnw]

99% of the people will not have a problem with this change. Originally I was against the idea of archery equipment during muzzleloader season but I changed my mind.

This is not going to affect the muzzleloader season in any big way. All it will do is allow hunters a little more flexibility. Really, why would you care if someone with a ML tag chooses to hunt with a bow instead of a muzzleloader?

exactly..i hunt both seasons varying from year to year and what my plans are...I dont see how it would change or add anyone..I would still be a hunter in the woods no matter how u cut it if i were carrying a bow or a muzzy

[bobcat]

uhuh: You have to include No: 11 caps as well; but im cool with the sidelock.

I hunt with a sidelock muzzleloader and no.11 caps. Inlines don't have any advantage over sidelocks. A sidelock can shoot just as far.

[washelkhunter]

uhuh: You have to include No: 11 caps as well; but im cool with the sidelock.

I hunt with a sidelock muzzleloader and no.11 caps. Inlines don't have any advantage over sidelocks. A sidelock can shoot just as far.

I agree; inlines do not have an advantage over sidelocks.

[Sabotloader]

uhuh: You have to include No: 11 caps as well; but im cool with the sidelock.

I hunt with a sidelock muzzleloader and no.11 caps. Inlines don't have any advantage over sidelocks. A sidelock can shoot just as far.

I agree; inlines do not have an advantage over sidelocks.

See, I agree with Bobcat's highlited statement, modern sidelocks have come a long ways from what they were.

Case in point, I have a couple Green Mountain 50 cal LRH fast twist barrel mounted in a Renegade stocks - They will shoot right along with any of the inlines that I own, basically it is the same thing as my Knight DISC Extreme equipped to hunt in the Pacific Northwest.  For long distance shooting it might be a tad better because of the set trigger function.

[Hindtit]

Any statement on here that a compound bow is equal to or even slightly lesser of a weapon than a muzzleloader is ridiculous.  Assume I have an elk at an unknown distance but I know it is less than 100 yards....with a muzzleloader I aim where I want to hit and fire.  With the bow in the same scenario I load an arrow, take my best range guess, draw my bow, hope the elk doesn't move and release....if I have misjudged the yardage +/- 5 yards I miss or wound the elk.  Another thing...how many second shot opportunities do you really have with a compound bow.  Most compound bows are not as quiet as you think.  For some reason people think that these bows are silent and an animal will not spook if missed on the first shot.  The sound of a compound bow sending an arrow downrange is not a natural sound in the wild...If you don't believe me go stand 50 yards downrange and have someone shoot an arrow past you....I bet you run!

[huntnnw]

no kidding.. I killed my muzzy bull last year with not a chance in hell of taking a shot at with a bow.. I have countless encounters during archery elk where a bull is dead with a smoke pull.

[buglebuster]

  my muzzy bull last year was 20 yards but offered no shot for archery.

[TommyH]

no kidding.. I killed my muzzy bull last year with not a chance in hell of taking a shot at with a bow.. I have countless encounters during archery elk where a bull is dead with a smoke pull.

  A muzzy hunt ends where a archery hunt begins!

[Hindtit]