Author Topic: Our first mule deer shot with a muzzleloader last season (Read 17615 times)

bear hunter · « **on:** February 24, 2012, 11:44:31 AM »

My buddys deer took 5 hour to get it out of the canyon. His was shot at 200+ yards. As we loaded him in the truck and drove down the mountain. There was a clear cut just a coulpe hundred yard down. I saw same deer move to my left. 3 doe and a 2x3 muley. *censored* I jumped out and ran into the clear cut. Then I saw a 3x3 with eye gaurds and 2 extra kickers standing broadside looking at me. I capped my muzzle and mounted the rifle. "*censored*" He moved and the only shot i had was the neck. I aimed cross my fingers and fired.........SMOKE>>>>>>>>SMOKE........... SMOKE........ as it cleared i could see legs in the air. He was down. THE END

buckfvr · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2012, 11:51:24 AM »

Wheres the big 4X4 with kickers

fast60eddie · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:07:43 PM »

Nice pic's and cool story
Thanks for sharing.

400out · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:10:27 PM »

Quote from: buckfvr on February 24, 2012, 11:51:24 AM

Wheres the big 4X4 with kickers

bear hunter · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:11:38 PM »

You might not count the eye guards but i do. The kickers are hard to see. look at the base of the antlers on the back side by the ear. Both sides have 3" kickers. If I counted the kicks it would be a 5x5. Hell I count all point. The state says 2x2 with eye guards 1" or more is legal. That makes it a 3x3. I wish all hunter called 2x2 with eye gaurds 2x2's and not 3x3's. Then it would make more deer for my buddys and I to fill are tag.

bear hunter · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:17:37 PM »

Quote from: 400out on February 24, 2012, 12:10:27 PM

Quote from: buckfvr on February 24, 2012, 11:51:24 AM
Wheres the big 4X4 with kickers

I FIXED IT FOR YOU GUYS. 3x3 with eye guards and two hard to see 3" kickers. Is that better?

C-Money · « **Reply #6 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:01:05 PM »

Nice pair of bucks! Nice neck shot! Looks like a fun deer hunt. Congrats!

RoyBoy · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2012, 12:16:09 AM »

im right there with you bear hunter if its over an inch i count it. theres very few of us that call it like it is on here but im glad im not the only one lol. and everyone reading this we dont do it to make em sound bigger its just how we were raised. same goes for you guys and not counting them. lets agree to disagree lol nice bucks none the less

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2012, 12:44:32 AM »

Congrats, there is always a battle over eye guards and small points. Don't let them get to you, some people forget the definition of a LEGAL point

BrushChimp · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2012, 06:06:35 AM »

Looks like a 10 pointer to me.

RoyBoy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2012, 07:18:53 AM »

stirring the pot

doyourtime89 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2012, 09:13:59 AM »

a couple of nice looking bucks

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2012, 10:19:15 AM »

NICE

saylean · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2012, 10:31:10 PM »

I always count the kickers/eyeguards if they are legal length.

Nice bucks.

mrmoskillz · « **Reply #14 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:36:33 PM »

Nice set of deer! side note I was brought up to count one side if there are even.. a 4x4 is a 4 point and a 4x3 is still a 4x3 on the east coast a 4x4 is an 8 point...cheaters! jk

RoyBoy · « **Reply #15 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:41:40 PM »

yeah it makes more since to just count one side it there even. yeah man you should see my 11 point whitetail i shot aha

i mean 6 by 5

bear hunter · « **Reply #16 on:** February 29, 2012, 04:58:07 PM »

Quote from: mrmoskillz on February 29, 2012, 02:36:33 PM

Nice set of deer! side note I was brought up to count one side if there are even.. a 4x4 is a 4 point and a 4x3 is still a 4x3 on the east coast a 4x4 is an 8 point...cheaters! jk

lol Then call the one on the left a 2x3 and the one on the right a 5 point. lol I call it a 5 point. I don't care what anyone calls it. There trophy's to use. Just like my first deer. Which was a big doe and I had her shoulder mounted. There all Trophys in my book. Hell my first buck was a blktail spike. I would of had him mounted but the .270 throw the head

"well you get the picture" LOL

singleshot12 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2012, 03:21:57 PM »

Great deer! Great hunt! Great eating!and Great memories

hillbillyhunting · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2012, 03:46:37 PM »

Quote from: RoyBoy on February 29, 2012, 02:41:40 PM

yeah it makes more since to just count one side it there even. yeah man you should see my 11 point whitetail i shot aha i mean 6 by 5

You mean a 4 by 5 with eye guards?

bear hunter · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2012, 03:50:38 PM »

Quote from: hillbillyhunting on March 01, 2012, 03:46:37 PM

Quote from: RoyBoy on February 29, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
yeah it makes more since to just count one side it there even. yeah man you should see my 11 point whitetail i shot aha i mean 6 by 5

You mean a 4 by 5 with eye guards?

W_Ellison2011 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:17:27 PM »

nice couple of deer. Just have 1 question.. not trying to start a fight.. were you hunting in washington with those muzzleloaders?

Bigluke1981 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:34:55 AM »

I don't care what you call them, they are two nice legal bucks that you should be proud of. Congrats!!!

BOOM!! · « **Reply #22 on:** March 08, 2012, 10:08:30 PM »

Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on March 07, 2012, 11:17:27 PM

nice couple of deer. Just have 1 question.. not trying to start a fight.. were you hunting in washington with those muzzleloaders?

OK now you got me curious

what are you trying to say? Wrong State or wrong muzzleloaders? They look like a couple of knight bighorns to me?

mrmoskillz · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2012, 08:51:07 AM »

blackveltbowhunter · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2012, 08:54:27 AM »

Congrats on the Bucks!!

They are dandies!!

bear hunter · « **Reply #25 on:** March 09, 2012, 08:40:18 PM »

Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on March 07, 2012, 11:17:27 PM

nice couple of deer. Just have 1 question.. not trying to start a fight.. were you hunting in washington with those muzzleloaders?

YES

with my KNIGHT BIGHORN

bear hunter · « **Reply #26 on:** March 09, 2012, 08:41:19 PM »

Quote from: Bigluke1981 on March 08, 2012, 12:34:55 AM

I don't care what you call them, they are two nice legal bucks that you should be proud of. Congrats!!!

Thanks

bear hunter · « **Reply #27 on:** March 09, 2012, 08:44:49 PM »

Quote from: BOOM!! on March 08, 2012, 10:08:30 PM

Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on March 07, 2012, 11:17:27 PM
nice couple of deer. Just have 1 question.. not trying to start a fight.. were you hunting in washington with those muzzleloaders?

OK now you got me curious what are you trying to say? Wrong State or wrong muzzleloaders? They look like a couple of knight bighorns to me?

Washington State,Knight bighorn=LEGAL

W_Ellison2011 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 15, 2012, 06:56:43 PM »

actually you all need to read your hunting regs on the muzzle loader equipment requirements.. the cap must be exposed to the weather at all times... those enclose the cap thus not legal for washington state. Like I said.. not trying to start a fight just trying to keep people from getting in trouble.

W_Ellison2011 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 15, 2012, 07:03:50 PM »

Ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock,
flintlock, or percussion using original
style percussion caps that fit on the
nipple and are exposed to the weather.
"Exposed to the weather" means the
percussion cap or the frizzen must
be visible and not capable of being
enclosed by an integral part of the
weapon proper. Primers designed to
be used in modern cartridges are not
legal.
Straight from the washington state hunting regulations... I don't want people getting in trouble if they get stopped. I just had this arguement with my brothers father in law who has a in-line muzzle loader like the ones being discussed and after reading the regs he agrees 100% with me.

Sabotloader · « **Reply #30 on:** March 15, 2012, 07:20:57 PM »

Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on March 15, 2012, 06:56:43 PM

actually you all need to read your hunting regs on the muzzle loader equipment requirements.. the cap must be exposed to the weather at all times... those enclose the cap thus not legal for washington state. Like I said.. not trying to start a fight just trying to keep people from getting in trouble.

Tell you what I am not sure if you are/were saying the Knight Big Horn is not legal in Washington or not but, the Knight Big Horn is a totally exposed breech area... the cap can be seen when the hunting with the gun.

Even the Knight DISC Extreme with a Western Kit installed qualifies for all three Pacific Northwest states.

bear hunter · « **Reply #31 on:** March 15, 2012, 08:00:56 PM »

Quote from: Sabotloader on March 15, 2012, 07:20:57 PM

Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on March 15, 2012, 06:56:43 PM
actually you all need to read your hunting regs on the muzzle loader equipment requirements.. the cap must be exposed to the weather at all times... those enclose the cap thus not legal for washington state. Like I said.. not trying to start a fight just trying to keep people from getting in trouble.

Tell you what I am not sure if you are/were saying the Knight Big Horn is not legal in Washington or not but, the Knight Big Horn is a totally exposed breech area... the cap can be seen when the hunting with the gun.

Even the Knight DISC Extreme with a Western Kit installed qualifies for all three Pacific Northwest states.

Sabotloader is right the Big horn is Very open the the weather. I use musket caps not 209's. Western state legal nothing wraps around the caps. So how is it not legal? I read the Reg's ever year. The rifle is washington legal. If it is not then you better call the GAME DEPT and report me to get your 10pt's for special permitts.

3dsheetmetal · « **Reply #32 on:** March 15, 2012, 08:25:20 PM »

Congrats! nice deer and nice guns

mrmoskillz · « **Reply #33 on:** March 16, 2012, 12:16:50 PM »

I just bought one and its legal. I think there is a lot of jealous people hating on you bear hunter. I would be happy with either of those bucks!

Buckmark · « **Reply #34 on:** March 16, 2012, 12:40:32 PM »

Bighorn
Muzzleloaders
Accessories
Bighorn - CarbonKnight®, Thumbhole

Western Ready Muzzleloader
This muzzleloader is legal to use in Washington, Oregon, and Idaho.

As long as the 209 breech has been swapped out for the #11 or musket.
So i dont get the flap???

bear hunter · « **Reply #35 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:52:16 PM »

Quote from: mrmoskillz on March 16, 2012, 12:16:50 PM

I just bought one and its legal. I think there is a lot of jealous people hating on you bear hunter. I would be happy with either of those bucks!

I don't know

Just wanted to post are first Muley's. Didn't think it would be such a big deal. LOL

washelkhunter · « **Reply #36 on:** March 16, 2012, 06:13:18 PM »

This is word for word out of the 2011 regs:

ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using ORIGINAL (my emphasis) style percussion caps that fit on the NIPPLE(me) and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be VISIBLE(me) and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper. Primers designed to be used in MODERN(me) cartridges are not legal.

Thus 209 primers are not legal, nor are DISCS while hunting during the muzzleloader season. You are allowed to use the 209, DISCS, scopes or double barrels when you are hunting during the MODERN season.

The old style flintlock caps and no: 11's are whats legal during muzzleloader season.

Hopes this clears things up for all y'all

W_Ellison2011 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 16, 2012, 08:59:15 PM »

not trying to hate... wow people have some big heads... I was just making sure. From what I've seen on the knight websites and stuff they don't appear to be legal. I can be wrong not a big deal. They are nice bucks. wasn't trying to take from that.. just trying to make sure one of the fellow members of this forum doesn't get in trouble.

bear hunter · « **Reply #38 on:** March 17, 2012, 01:09:01 AM »

Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on March 16, 2012, 08:59:15 PM

not trying to hate... wow people have some big heads... I was just making sure. From what I've seen on the knight websites and stuff they don't appear to be legal. I can be wrong not a big deal. They are nice bucks. wasn't trying to take from that.. just trying to make sure one of the fellow members of this forum doesn't get in trouble.

I don't hate you

I was just

my head. I do know the picture your talking about. I looked at it. The picture shows the Knight big horn with the red 209 cup in it. You have to tell them at the time you order it. You want the western kit. It comes with a new breach plug and #11 and musket nipples. Same as the Tk2000 12g shotgun. Not A HATER JUST A

er

teanawayslayer · « **Reply #39 on:** March 17, 2012, 05:57:47 AM »

Quote from: washelkhunter on March 16, 2012, 06:13:18 PM

This is word for word out of the 2011 regs:

ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using ORIGINAL (my emphasis) style percussion caps that fit on the NIPPLE(me) and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be VISIBLE(me) and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper. Primers designed to be used in MODERN(me) cartridges are not legal.

Thus 209 primers are not legal, nor are DISCS while hunting during the muzzleloader season. You are allowed to use the 209, DISCS, scopes or double barrels when you are hunting during the MODERN season.

The old style flintlock caps and no: 11's are whats legal during muzzleloader season.

Hopes this clears things up for all y'all

Well before you opened your mouth maybe you should have checked to see if the bighorn is legal. It is very legal in this state. Can't you just congratulate these guys on a couple of nice bucks. great job on a couple of nice bucks!!!

washelkhunter · « **Reply #40 on:** March 17, 2012, 01:27:29 PM »

Why dont you get yourself a pair of glasses to read with teanawayway. I was'nt ranking on anybody or their equipment. You dont seem capable of comprehending the content of my post. I'd like an apology.

justgetoutthere · « **Reply #41 on:** March 18, 2012, 12:33:53 AM »

Well, "Any type of projectile is allowed." To get off of the rifle talk, care to share info on the loads you guys used on these beauties? Thanks for sharing man. Nice bucks!

teanawayslayer · « **Reply #42 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:01:46 AM »

Quote from: washelkhunter on March 17, 2012, 01:27:29 PM

Why dont you get yourself a pair of glasses to read with teanawayway. I was'nt ranking on anybody or their equipment. You dont seem capable of comprehending the content of my post. I'd like an apology.

You have my apology this post was intended for w_ellison2011. There was some confusion on my part. Heath

washelkhunter · « **Reply #43 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:04:46 AM »

Gracias Amigo!

bear hunter · « **Reply #44 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:51:10 PM »

Quote from: justgetoutthere on March 18, 2012, 12:33:53 AM

Well, "Any type of projectile is allowed." To get off of the rifle talk, care to share info on the loads you guys used on these beauties? Thanks for sharing man. Nice bucks!

Thanks!!!! We used the 150 grains followed with a 250gr yellow tipped sabot. I might try some x-barnes bullets next year.

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