Do you see a pattern?

[400out]

In these two videos with Bud Latterner, I have watched them before but I really got steamed when I seen then this time    Some one needs to take his gun from him!
http://www.monstermuleys.com/videostories/site.pl?page=bud2007mm
http://www.monstermuleys.com/videostories/site.pl?page=bud2008mm

[bearpaw]

A lot of guys are not the very best shot, that is just part of hunting, I don't see anything I think is that wrong. I do know these guys and they pass a lot of smaller bucks trying to find good ones.

[mallard79]

I can see both sides......I dont think tracking an animal for a half mile is nearly enough before giving up. He shot AND wounded the animal.... he should put in the effort to find it....NOT someone else.....it is great that he had an ethical person with him that was willing to put in the effort to finish the hunt. The fact that they pass on smaller and younger deer is good as it allows the deer a chance to grow bigger for next year.....at the same time he should probly put in a little more time at the range...the animal deserves it. 

[bobcat]

It may not be that he needs more time at the range, it could just be the excitement of the moment, and maybe even buck fever? Shooting at a live animal is a whole lot different than shooting paper from a bench rest. I know a lot of the shots I've made in the field haven't been nearly as perfect as I'd like them to be, but at least for me I very rarely get an opportunity in which I can take all the time in the world and get a perfect rest. So I'm not going to make a judgement on someone just from a couple of videos.

[bearpaw]

They hunted with me several years ago and he was older then. I think he probably got tired, that happens. The boys covered for him and they killed the deer, that's what counts. 

[400out]

I just saw the wounded deer and then giving up on them. the second video he went after another deer even after knowing he hit the first one 

[bearpaw]

I just saw the wounded deer and then giving up on them. the second video he went after another deer even after knowing he hit the first one 

I missed that part....

[Mark B]

Did I miss something in the second video??? He harvested the same deer he shot in the first minute of the video Correct?

[couesbitten]

Just watched both videos, I will admit that a half mile isn't enough, but dad had the boy(s) with him to do the extended tracking, so they got it done.  Didn't hear him say anything about going after a different deer.  Perhaps dad needs to spend a bit more time at the range.

[coachcw]

I think that they gave it more time than alot of guys would .

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Not impressed with someone who was willing to give up after trailing wounded game 1/2 mile.

Anybody know what state this was in?

[bobcat]

Not impressed with someone who was willing to give up after trailing wounded game 1/2 mile.

Anybody know what state this was in?

I think Utah.

[couesbitten]

 

[Sitka_Blacktail]

If it's Utah, then they are probably safe from being prosecuted for admitting to using radios in the aid of taking game.  I believe it's legal there.

But they won't be able to enter that animal into the Boone and Crockett record books.  They have fair chase rules against that.

[got2hunt]

sounds like he needs to use a different bullet or caliber cause he hit it good but just looks like the bullet expanded before it did the real damage

[huntnnw]

I know several who can punch hole on hole target shooting,but hunting is another story

[Mark B]

I completely agree with that statement..

[couesbitten]

Probably shooting Nosler Ballistic Tips

[ghosthunter]

Ya I can drill paper all day long but when I get a animal in the cross hairs I have to tell myself to settle down.

[Bushcraft]

"We trailed him for a half mile. There was just a drop of blood here and a drop of blood there. He's taking us farther and farther in. We are not going to find him."

This guy gave up tracking him after 1/2 a mile (which was probably closer to 500 yards) he KNEW he hit him in the shoulder and decided to give up when there was clearly evidence of blood in the snow???

Good grief.

I can see losing the sign after a snowfall as mentioned in the first video.   But that second video is just a flat out embarrassment.

Kudos to Brian for sticking with it, but Bud's name might as well be Mud in my book.

Allen

[sakoshooter]

After watching both videos, I'm thoroughly unimpressed.
First video: Shoot and wound a big buck, then give up on a blood trail??? Then go hunt for another buck???
Second video: Shoot and wound a big buck, then give up on a blood trail???
What ever happened to ethics?

On another note: These guys need to switch ammo to something more modern that will actually work.

[jeepguy]

how much this happens i dont wanna know .i dont think he  taking his time for a good rest  his caliber maybe not enough maybe he is shooting to far also is he useing store bought ammo? we use handloads which when done correctley give you a better all around shell that knocks the stuff'n out of them but you still have to aim . he maybe shooting too far and the animal is probley moving.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

how much this happens i dont wanna know .i dont think he  taking his time for a good rest  his caliber maybe not enough maybe he is shooting to far also is he useing store bought ammo? we use handloads which when done correctley give you a better all around shell that knocks the stuff'n out of them but you still have to aim . he maybe shooting too far and the animal is probley moving.

Except he seemed to have made a decent hit. I'm more inclined to think he was using balistic tips or some other bullet that opened up too much and didn't penetrate.

Ballistic tips tend to do two things. They either hit bone and blow up thus not getting good penetration, ot they leave a humongous exit hole and damage way more meat than I care for.

I borrowed a gun from a friend out commercial fishing near Kodiak and he used ballistic tips. I went for a little deer hunt on Afognak while we were anchored up one afternoon.  Shot a little spike at about 25 yards and I was appalled at the damage that bullet did to my deer. I could have stuck my foot in the exit hole. and the bloodshot ruined that whole shoulder and the ribcage an that side of the deer. Never hunted with them again. But I have two friends who use them and I see similar damage on animals they take. They also seem to wound animals that require extensive tracking to recover or even lose hit animals, all at a higher rate than what seems normal to me.