Author Topic: gsp puppy (Read 10499 times)

shotsofwhisky · « **on:** March 05, 2012, 12:45:13 PM »

Wow. Way more energy and puppy behavior then my lab was. Anyone have tricks, tips to keep me from pulling my hair out? just trying to let her be a puppy and have fun for a few more weeks while working on come, sit basic commands. Thought maybe a loose raw hide twist would keep her occupied for a few minutes but am worried it will teach hard chewing that would later show on birds. Any ideas?

Stilly bay · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:06:09 PM »

lots of exercise, and then more exercise. a tired GSP is a Happy GSP. the good news is it will only be full of beans and acting like a puppy for the next ten years, after that its smooth sailing.

a raw hide chew shouldn't affect its bird work what so ever. I wouldn't give it a chew unsupervised, its a choking /blockage hazard. same with stuffed animal, its just not worth it.

shotsofwhisky · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:21:55 PM »

Can't do anything unsupervised, she won't leave my side lol. Wouldn't be so bad if I didn't go blind and taste it everytime she farts...

BIGINNER · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:24:18 PM »

LOL. I HAVE A WEIM PUP THAT IS 8 WEEKS OLD... ALL I CAN SAY IS I'M GLAD I HAVE A 2 YAER OLD KID... THEY WEAR EACH OTHER OUT SO THEY DON'T BOTHER ME. LOL BUT I ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT TEARING THE HOUSE IN HALF

shotsofwhisky · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:35:28 PM »

Holy crap must be nap time!!! She's laying down!!

newbie76 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2012, 08:36:51 AM »

I am getting a little worried. We are going to be picking up our puppy in a couple weeks!

BIGINNER · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2012, 08:37:54 AM »

Quote from: newbie76 on March 07, 2012, 08:36:51 AM

I am getting a little worried. We are going to be picking up our puppy in a couple weeks!

don't worry, ALL puppies are insane.

Happy Gilmore · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:39:58 AM »

No sitting for pointing dogs. Just teach whoa, a stand-still.

BIGINNER · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:42:15 AM »

Quote from: Happy Gilmore on March 07, 2012, 09:39:58 AM

No sitting for pointing dogs. Just teach whoa, a stand-still.

yep, all my pups were taught "sit" either by my wife or my sisters/brothers whaen i wasn't around, makes it very hard to teach woah. but its doable,.. just not recomended.

BULLBLASTER · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2012, 02:42:12 PM »

Mine is 3 and still absolutely crazy. Like said before running running and more running. Mine runs circles as fast as he can in the back yard while barking at the sky!

flinger · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2012, 06:22:45 PM »

gotta love a room full of GSP GAS

MuleySniper · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2012, 06:28:09 PM »

cute suckers. if i had the time to do more bird hunting id love one or some other breed of hunting dog. i just dont have the time for a hunting dog so ill stick with guard dogs

shotsofwhisky · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2012, 06:51:47 PM »

So as soon as I read this sit was removed from vocabulary. My lab/shepard sits on a hand command i can give while the pointer isn't looking. But we were outside playing and i grabbed a pheasant wing just so she could Chase the smell a little bit. Well I had it on a line and she would go find it but there was no point first thing she wanted to do was play with it so I picked it up and put it away goal of today was introduce scent. But I'm worried about no point is she just too young? From what i read pointing is instinctive? Any help?

flinger · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2012, 07:22:22 PM »

if you want to use a wing on a string DO NOT let her get it .Use it with a fishing pole and when she is close to it spring it into the air and let it land after a few rounds of this you should notice a slow down to a creep to stopping and pointing the wing.Most all pointers point naturally this just kinda keeps it a little playful while still getting a basic point stucture

shotsofwhisky · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2012, 07:32:46 PM »

So i read up on bringing out point and found that out. But how do you reward point? I got one point just after posting we went back out side played I broke out the wing and she pointed once after not being able to catch it. Well I said "ok get em up" and she went after it. I jerked it and let it fall and let her get it but now realized I need a better way to reward I praised her in point, but how to you reward the point using this method?

flinger · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2012, 07:46:08 PM »

you do not always need a treat reward ,just when she goes on point a good old fasioned,good girl will be sufficient

Cascade_fisher · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2012, 08:07:27 PM »

Long loving strokes are how we do it with our two. Occasionally we give a treat but they love doing it so just reinforcing it works.

My GSPs are not wild. They require a lot of exercise but they are not crazy.

shotsofwhisky · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2012, 08:57:05 PM »

She's calming down we are starting to understand each other. Not so bad now. Just lots of work. Lol

Happy Gilmore · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2012, 09:27:24 AM »

keep her on a check cord on a half hitch around her belly. whoa her as she's coming into the scent(be sure you're downwind) give her gentle tug reminders to slow up. Not all dogs will lift a leg and point...don't worry about it, might come later. Reward her with praise. Don't mix treats and training. Give a dog treat for laying down on it's bed or something like that....bird hunting is a job they are bred to do.

Probably a lot easier with some live pigeons. number of ways to work them so they last.

wildweeds · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2012, 04:36:06 PM »

IMO you need to let em be puppies,expecting top notch pointing from a puppy(16 months and under) is grading ahead of the curve.You don't expect understanding nuclear science from a kindergardner,same goes for a pup.No whoa it ain't for around birds ever IMO,the reward for a point is a dead bird.An age old game, point em or knock em,the biggest thing is to NEVER shoot birds that the dog has not pointed,it requires restraint from doing so on the human part.

If you did your genetics homework before purchasing the pup and it's well bred it will point,it will also have a little something something between the ears too.

Teaching one to point is for the ones that ain't overly blessed with good genetics and requires a cool hand and patience.

Stilly bay · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2012, 04:41:16 PM »

Quote from: wildweeds on March 13, 2012, 04:36:06 PM

IMO you need to let em be puppies,expecting top notch pointing from a puppy(16 months and under) is grading ahead of the curve.You don't expect understanding nuclear science from a kindergardner,same goes for a pup.No whoa it ain't for around birds ever IMO,the reward for a point is a dead bird.An age old game, point em or knock em,the biggest thing is to NEVER shoot birds that the dog has not pointed,it requires restraint from doing so on the human part.

If you did your genetics homework before purchasing the pup and it's well bred it will point,it will also have a little something something between the ears too.

Teaching one to point is for the ones that ain't overly blessed with good genetics and requires a cool hand and patience.

take that to the bank!

shotsofwhisky · « **Reply #21 on:** March 16, 2012, 02:06:36 AM »

Had I purchased her then yes I would have researched genetics. But this dog was purchased by the boyfriend of a co-worker and they couldn't keep her and due to not having a lot of land and knowing keeping her brain working helps calm her down a little. So we do fun learning I'm not expecting a perfect point but want her to have fun and burn energy. Am i leading her wrong there?

RadSav · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2012, 02:31:46 AM »

I'd have to agree with Stilly - she will settle down in about 8 to 10 years

. You might be pulling your hair out now, but you'll be bragging about it after a long day of chasing chuckars. I also agree with letting them be puppies. Too much training and discipline at a young age and you run the risk of breaking their spirit. That might be ok for lap dogs and show, but it is a death sentence for a good hunting dog.

To me the best part about bird hunting is watching your dogs have fun. If it were all about shooting birds I'd hire a guide and hunt behind working dogs that are raised as working/hunting dogs not as a member of the family.

It's a facinating thing to watch a properly bread and trained pointer do it's job flawlessly. Finding one that can do that and be a cherished part of the family is rare. I'd rather hunt with one that breaks point once in a while, gets too damn excited on the first bird of the day and loves his dad more than life itself than a perfect hunting robot that fears doing something wrong and has little emotional connection with the family.

Believe me, those ten years are going to go by way too fast. Enjoy 'em while you can and have no regrets tomorrow.

wildweeds · « **Reply #23 on:** March 16, 2012, 06:29:00 AM »

How old is this "puppy"?

shotsofwhisky · « **Reply #24 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:07:03 AM »

3 1/2 months

Happy Gilmore · « **Reply #25 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:47:33 AM »

just a pup...give her a few more months and she'll be climbing the walls even higher!!

jrebel · « **Reply #26 on:** March 16, 2012, 11:09:01 AM »

Trade her in for a wired hair pointer. I have both and will never buy a gsp again. Every gsp I have known has been crazy wild until about 10 years old. My wired hair pointer has the best temporment of any dog I have ever known. She is a dream and holy hell is she smart. Oh Yeah, her farts will make you gag....

She is not to lady like with her bad gas and her beard.

Happy Gilmore · « **Reply #27 on:** March 16, 2012, 12:12:07 PM »

I'd say WHP's are more relaxed and "easier" for the average guy. At least the ones I've been around...not wound quite so tightly.

wildweeds · « **Reply #28 on:** March 16, 2012, 03:56:23 PM »

Holder ther pardner................................. it's a baby ................... let it be,the only thing you should be working towards IMO is a solid.................. "Here" and "Kennel" and no jumping up.

Quote from: shotsofwhisky on March 16, 2012, 09:07:03 AM

3 1/2 months

jrebel · « **Reply #29 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:23:21 PM »

Get and read "Gun Dod" by Richard Walters. Best book I have read when it comes to the training a dog. Very easy read and it works...... My WHP was in the field at 3 1/2 months and she alread knew "Come, Stay, Leave it, Sit, Go, Wait" commands. In my very humble opinion (cause I am no master trainer by any means) now is the time to be training...not coddleing you dog.

Good Luck

Cheers

wildweeds · « **Reply #30 on:** March 17, 2012, 07:46:53 AM »

Gun dog is good for one thing and one thing only........................fire starter,Wolters was a writer not a dog trainer..................

For the best of the best and a dog man thru and thru..........................Wing and Shot by Robert Wehle ...........Also known as ELHEW pointer, a marketeer master but a dog trainer for sure as evidenced by decades of champions.

Just sayin................

Quote from: jrebel on March 16, 2012, 05:23:21 PM

Get and read "Gun Dod" by Richard Walters. Best book I have read when it comes to the training a dog. Very easy read and it works...... My WHP was in the field at 3 1/2 months and she alread knew "Come, Stay, Leave it, Sit, Go, Wait" commands. In my very humble opinion (cause I am no master trainer by any means) now is the time to be training...not coddleing you dog.

Good Luck

Cheers

Happy Gilmore · « **Reply #31 on:** March 17, 2012, 10:20:25 AM »

Quote from: wildweeds on March 17, 2012, 07:46:53 AM

Wolters was a writer not a dog trainer..................

jrebel · « **Reply #32 on:** March 17, 2012, 03:33:44 PM »

I don't know about training background vs his writing background, but Gun Dog worked for me. I loved the book and dog seems to have taken to his training methods very well. Keeping in mind you have to take everything with a grain of salt and adapt what you are reading to your own situation and dog.

I will also have to read the other book mentioned....maybe I can learn a little more.

"Just Sayin..."

shotsofwhisky · « **Reply #33 on:** March 17, 2012, 11:33:00 PM »

Keep all the great info coming lol very helpful.

wildweeds · « **Reply #34 on:** March 18, 2012, 06:34:13 AM »

Earl Crangle also wrote a book of his dog training efforts,he was a very good freind of Wehle as well,Paul long has a book too....................... These guys were at it long before the electronic collar was a glimmer in anyones mind.

A little something something I learned from an old feller who was an american field AA and shooting dog handler and won a lot of stuff over the years(his training is shown through a man on the net in mexico who has a ton of youtube videos,he trained the guys dogs)......................" The CHEAPEST part of training a dog is the VERY thing people are cheap with.................. Birds,takes em to end up with a birddog,everyone has money for E collars,release traps,tracking devices,automatic backer dogs,when in reality if you spent all the money on birds ...............you need a checkcord and the birds.

Happy Gilmore · « **Reply #35 on:** March 18, 2012, 04:46:00 PM »

Quote from: wildweeds on March 18, 2012, 06:34:13 AM

Earl Crangle also wrote a book of his dog training efforts,he was a very good freind of Wehle as well,Paul long has a book too....................... These guys were at it long before the electronic collar was a glimmer in anyones mind.

A little something something I learned from an old feller who was an american field AA and shooting dog handler and won a lot of stuff over the years(his training is shown through a man on the net in mexico who has a ton of youtube videos,he trained the guys dogs)......................" The CHEAPEST part of training a dog is the VERY thing people are cheap with.................. Birds,takes em to end up with a birddog,everyone has money for E collars,release traps,tracking devices,automatic backer dogs,when in reality if you spent all the money on birds ...............you need a checkcord and the birds.

funny how a bird on a string and one dizzied up always comes back to favor at the end of the day

shorthair-on-point · « **Reply #36 on:** April 17, 2012, 09:12:18 AM »

How is it going with your pup?

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