Ice melt on our roads hurting our vehicles!

[trophyhunt]

I think they should put whatever is most effective on the streets. I would much rather have to wash my car, than have to get me and my car peeled off the the grill of a semi.

No kidding.  They are trying to make roads safer.  Have you called DOT about it, or just complain on the internet?

Couldn't disagree more.  "They" don't make the roads safer, people paying attention to WTF they're doing while driving do (ie., Guns don't kill people, people kill people).  "They" are spending tax dollars on laying this corrosive crap down when it is not justified (it never is - learn to drive in the climate in which you live, folks).  This is the same "They" that come to us and say they don't have enough money to fix the roads so we need to pay more taxes... the same "They" that try to legislate every bit of minute of your lives to make it safer, and the same "They" that 99% of the frequent posters of this board bitch about when talking about our government pandering to the socialist Left.

So, I too get irritated when I see those lines of corrosive solution on the roads I'm driving on.  It represents the 9 scariest words you'll ever hear - "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help" (thank you Ronald Reagan).

Voting on it ain't gonna help, though.  There are too many people out there who say "The government needs to make my life safe for me!"    So, a regular wash down is a necessity to keep our rigs looking nice.  If you feel like REALLY getting pissed off about this stuff on the roads, try taking an aluminum boat over the pass in the winter...

I also think it's easier to drive on the road when they don't plow it, the snow tracks are almost like a railroad when the snow gets deep enough- heck you can almost let go of your steering wheel (I did say almost so you don't have to slam me for that). Man how ever did we make it around this frozen tundra back in the years they didn't put this corrosive crap on the roads. And just like iceman said, thought they were broke. The aluminum boat example is great, it's f n scary what this s hit is doing to our stuff. I didn't know it takes sealer off of your concrete, that's neat since sealer is so cheap. Yes I could rinse my truck off every time I get home during the winter, but what a pain in the a ss. Especially the times my hoses are frozen and how about the ice skating rink you make by doing that.  Don't get me wrong, it's not the end of the world and yes there are far more important things in life to b itch about but this is a forum and yes it does bug the s hit out of me that they decide to ruin my hard earned toy's without even telling us we should wash our stuff off. How about a warning about it, don't you think that's the least they should do???

[Miles]

This cracks me up... You guys REALLY should not be complaining.  I loved the fact that vehicles didn't rust in WA.  In New Hampshire, about the time you're done paying of a vehicle you can push your finger through the rusted out fenders...


Plus every bolt is rusted to crap (torches are used, not wrenches), the gas tanks fall out when you hit a bump cause the straps are rusted through.  The rocker panels are GONE. And everything you try to work on takes twice as long cause it's all rusted together.

You folks in Washington have it easy.

[firefighter4607]

Ok first thing that I heard is you were on the Oregon coast for x amount of time...... When ever I go to the COAST I always wash my rig when I first get back. The saltwater that settles on your rig with the morning fog and the sand alone will rust anything metal. The DOT spray that stuff around here on just about a daily basis. I drive on the freeway every day to work so I drive on the liquid deicer and my rig hasn't been washed for months along with a few other coworkers and we have no problem with rusting. Are you sure it wasn't because of the coast the rust appeared. I don't like the stuff the DOT uses either but I doubt the rust was caused from it.

[fish vacuum]

I don't like it. Seems like it started a couple of years ago after that bad snow storm and everyone in Seattle was crying about the roads not being maintained. I'd rather have a few bad days a year without de-icer.
Hard to wash the car off every time you drive in it since it's used when temps are below freezing. Am I supposed come home at night and hose my car off in 28 degree temps?

[sakoshooter]

I think they should put whatever is most effective on the streets. I would much rather have to wash my car, than have to get me and my car peeled off the the grill of a semi.

Goes for me too.

[Miles]

Also, when you "wash" it off, it all mixes in with the water and gets in every little crack, place, and part on your truck/car.  Sure it's not as concentrated, but you essentially just spread it out over a bigger area on your vehicle.    A lot of people back east have the underside of their vehicles sprayed with oil in the fall.  This is to prevent (slow) it from rusting due to the high amounts of salt used on the roads.

[wraithen]

I know in NY the scam was to undercoat your vehicle. I call it a scam because I was told by a few garages I needed to have it done. My car had come from the factory with the entire bottom undercoated. I kept an eye on it. Whenever I asked why they would tell me my car was starting to rust from the bottom up. I then had them raise my car to show me. Oooops! What's all the black stuff?  Oil would be a horrible idea. They use something that looks more like spray on bedliner.

[Miles]

My truck came from Spokane (had the black undercoat) and has been parked in NH for 4 years.  The undercoat isn't holding up...   Anywhere that there is a hole in the frame/bolts/mounted hardware, it is coming off and surface rust is now noticeable.  If it was staying there another year, I would definitely have it sprayed.

What part of NY did you live in, and how long where you there? 

[wraithen]

Ft. Drum for about 4 years. Sorry to hear yours was coming off. Mine should have, I had a ford focus that was lowered and I couldn't get that thing stuck with blizzaks so I know I was always scraping. Maybe I got lucky though. I also washed that car every weekend whether the weather was good or bad.

[TheHunt]

It is crap for sure...  BUT it all started when the whiners from King County and Pierce County that cannot drive in the snow all started to complain.  Must be the California folks...   

I have to wash down the truck when they put that crap on the road.  I also see some very, very, minor pitting on my bumper so I waxed the entire truck and put on three coats of wax on the bumper to protect it. I think it is a conspiracy to make people buy new rigs. 

[trophyhunt]

My complaint has been sent, we'll see what they say if anything. My biggest gripe is if this stuff is bad for our rigs then why havn't they told us about it and told us how to take care or reverse the effects of the crap.

[Bean Counter]

Should the back of my  bear tag remind me of the dangers of trichinosis? 

[Happy Gilmore]

WSDOT was putting real salt on 203 when it snowed here the other day....right after a truck went by spraying de-icer? Thought that seemed weird.

[trophyhunt]

Should the back of my  bear tag remind me of the dangers of trichinosis? 

Really, we could go on and on with those kind of warnings. I don't think in general the public knows what that stuff does to our rigs. If you don't mind your sh it getting ruined by the stuff then that's your deal, I just think the public should know about it. And by the way, I'm sure we've all at one time in our lives been told about trichinosis.

[KopperBuck]

I drive 20 miles in WA, then 30 miles through OR to get to work, one way. I like WA roads much better. I guess I'm a double contributor to tearing the roads up, I run studs on my gals commuter. I like safe, I like control, and I like to be able to avoid others when they're slipping.