New Discover Pass law is WORSE for Hunters.

[The Weazle]

Adds to the types of vehicles for which the owners are given the opportunity to donate to state parks upon vehicle registration.
Creates a $10 state parks support fee on recreational vehicle registrations until
July 1, 2015, for deposit into the Parks Renewal and Stewardship Account,
with funds directed towards the operation and maintenance at the State Parks
that accommodate recreational vehicles.Creates an up to $50 Family Discover Pass that is transferable among any vehicle.
Allows tsunami cleanup to count as volunteer hours towards a free Discover Pass.

Am I reading this correctly that when my RV tabs come due, there will be a $10 state parks support fee automatically tacked on to my tabs purchase?  My RV has never seen a State Park, and probably never will, yet I have to pay some jacked up fee for a renewal and stewardship account that I will never experience said "stewardship" between now and July 2015 (and we know it will get a forever extension, who are they kidding).

I find it a bit humorous that this bill only allows tsunami clean up as a method of volunteer hours for a free pass.   No freebies here....   

I'm with ya...If I get my renewal notice and that is on there, I am going to start making some phone calls.  I might even camp out on the governors lawn in my RV to get my $10 worth.  Maybe I will get Jesse.  I dont know...but this gives me time to plan!!!

[6x6in6]

Adds to the types of vehicles for which the owners are given the opportunity to donate to state parks upon vehicle registration.
Creates a $10 state parks support fee on recreational vehicle registrations until
July 1, 2015, for deposit into the Parks Renewal and Stewardship Account,
with funds directed towards the operation and maintenance at the State Parks
that accommodate recreational vehicles.Creates an up to $50 Family Discover Pass that is transferable among any vehicle.
Allows tsunami cleanup to count as volunteer hours towards a free Discover Pass.

Am I reading this correctly that when my RV tabs come due, there will be a $10 state parks support fee automatically tacked on to my tabs purchase?  My RV has never seen a State Park, and probably never will, yet I have to pay some jacked up fee for a renewal and stewardship account that I will never experience said "stewardship" between now and July 2015 (and we know it will get a forever extension, who are they kidding).

I find it a bit humorous that this bill only allows tsunami clean up as a method of volunteer hours for a free pass.   No freebies here....   

I'm with ya...If I get my renewal notice and that is on there, I am going to start making some phone calls.  I might even camp out on the governors lawn in my RV to get my $10 worth.  Maybe I will get Jesse.  I dont know...but this gives me time to plan!!!

I'll go.  Yeah, it's only $10 but it's the damn principal of the matter on this one.
My renewal notice should be here in the mail by the end of the month for early May renewal, I would guess.
I guess it depends on when this takes effect if this will hit me this year or next year.

[The Weazle]

Same here...Its gonna be cheaper to camp on her lawn and go to jail than it is to use our public lands.  I've never camped in a state park, and dont plan on it.  How is it even legal for them to charge us for something like that.  I bet most people won't even know they are getting charged for it, kind of like the donation you are already charged for state parks now on vehicle registration that you have to deduct when you pay the tabs...I paid it a few times not knowing, and when I showed my wife, she really got pissed!!!

[predatorpro]

For the first time in my life I am thinking about no longer hunting in this state.  I just want to archery hunt mule deer, hunt elk if I'm drawn and love to hunt predators.  The only time I've wanted to hunt discover pass areas is to chase predators.  I'm thinking that the predators I remove should grant me a deer a year and maybe even the chance to chase an elk.

The money grab and BS to hunt public land has me feeling sour.  I can buy an out of state deer tag that comes with 2 does for $255 in South Dakota (for example).

What a damn wreck and the real problem is..........................it's not going to get better, only worse.

i agree im going to buy a small game license here for coyotes and probly go hunt deer and elk in another state just cuz washington is pissing me off so bad!

[washelkhunter]

Somebody's gotta clean up all the Jap trash headed for  our beaches! I know lets snooker all those hunters into doing it for a stupid DP.  those dumb ass rubes will fall for anything. HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Boss .300 winmag]

Same here...Its gonna be cheaper to camp on her lawn and go to jail than it is to use our public lands.  I've never camped in a state park, and dont plan on it.  How is it even legal for them to charge us for something like that.  I bet most people won't even know they are getting charged for it, kind of like the donation you are already charged for state parks now on vehicle registration that you have to deduct when you pay the tabs...I paid it a few times not knowing, and when I showed my wife, she really got pissed!!!

 

[washelkhunter]

Hey this would be awesome. imagine a huge caravan of hunters going out of state en masse with protest signs on the vehicles heading for SD. I would imagine that might wake some folks up. what if we formed a coalition that contacted SD and maybe got a group discount thrown in. Imagine we got the national press to cover the protest. Imagine if we didnt spend any recreational dollars in WA. Or buy our groceries for the hunt here. what if we spent all our dollars in SD? Supported their local economy and business'. I imagine SD would be really, really happy to see us. Anybody know who the governor is there? Lets see now. i have got a tent trailer that will sleep 3 and a P/u that will transport 3 in comfort. Price of gas to and fro plus side trips we might spend about 6 or 7 hundred. propane for the trailer 50 bucks tops. groceries for the hunt figure 15 bucks a day per hunter if living large. throw another 30 bucks in for gas for the generator or maybe 20 tops for an rv spot with power and its about done. that comes to about $460 per hunter for 10 days. So by my calculations SD looks like a good deal indeed cause you know everybodys gonna come back with 2 does for the freezer.  Yeah Baby, can you say road trip!

[Cap.Silver]

After reading all posts I really think Washelkhunters idea is the only solution on how to let the people in Olympia know our opinion .....

[bobcat]

After reading all posts I really think Washelkhunters idea is the only solution on how to let the people in Olympia know our opinion .....

Or just don't buy a Discover pass. I'm not. I have lots of places to hunt, including state land, where I don't need a Discover pass. It wouldn't be so bad if the money actually went to DNR, but 84% goes to Parks, 8% goes to the WDFW, and 8% goes to DNR.

[DoubleJ]

Brief Summary of Engrossed Second Substitute Bill and all it does:

Includes all land and land types managed by the Washington State Department of Natural Resources (DNR), other than aquatic lands, for which a Discover Pass or day-use permit is required.
Exempts possessor of a daily Sno-Park permit from requiring a Discover Pass or day-use permit at designated Sno-Parks.
Modifies the validity of the Discover Pass to begin when the pass has been marked for activation.
Allows for the single purchase of a Discover Pass or Vehicle Access Pass to be valid for two license plate numbers.
Limits any transaction and dealer fee that causes the price of the Discover
Pass or day-use permit to exceed the price in statute to be assessed only for those purchased through the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife's (WDFW) automated licensing system.
*Allows for the Discover Pass and day-use permit to be obtained by retailers.
*Expands the options of where a Discover Pass and day-use permit can be purchased and authorizes the Washington State Parks and Recreation
Commission (State Parks) to utilize unstaffed collection stations.
Redistributes local sales and use tax revenues assessed at the State Parks from local jurisdictions to a dedicated account within the State Parks.
Provides a complimentary Discover Pass to eligible disabled Washington veterans.
Requires free access days at state parks and suggests they be timed with National Park Service free days.
Codifies that the DNR, the WDFW, and the State Parks must designate free 15-minute short-term parking.
Adds exemptions for certain circumstances from requiring the Discover Pass or day-use permit.
Adds to the types of vehicles for which the owners are given the opportunity to donate to state parks upon vehicle registration.
Creates a $10 state parks support fee on recreational vehicle registrations until
July 1, 2015, for deposit into the Parks Renewal and Stewardship Account,
with funds directed towards the operation and maintenance at the State Parks
that accommodate recreational vehicles.Creates an up to $50 Family Discover Pass that is transferable among any vehicle.
Allows tsunami cleanup to count as volunteer hours towards a free Discover Pass.
Requires the agencies to develop proposals for finding consistent state
recreational policies where inconsistencies exist and to report findings to the Legislature.

Where/how does one qualify and acquire under this exemption?

[washelkhunter]

Im economically and emotionally disabled due to the enactment of the Discover Pass, and who are you to say different, a doctor maybe. Zoidberg.

[Sumpnneedskillin]

Adds to the types of vehicles for which the owners are given the opportunity to donate to state parks upon vehicle registration.
Creates a $10 state parks support fee on recreational vehicle registrations until
July 1, 2015, for deposit into the Parks Renewal and Stewardship Account,
with funds directed towards the operation and maintenance at the State Parks
that accommodate recreational vehicles.Creates an up to $50 Family Discover Pass that is transferable among any vehicle.
Allows tsunami cleanup to count as volunteer hours towards a free Discover Pass.

Am I reading this correctly that when my RV tabs come due, there will be a $10 state parks support fee automatically tacked on to my tabs purchase?  My RV has never seen a State Park, and probably never will, yet I have to pay some jacked up fee for a renewal and stewardship account that I will never experience said "stewardship" between now and July 2015 (and we know it will get a forever extension, who are they kidding).

I find it a bit humorous that this bill only allows tsunami clean up as a method of volunteer hours for a free pass.   No freebies here....   

Not just $10 but $13.  There is $10 to support state parks that have rv sites and $3 towards construction and maintenance of rv dump sites.

Double J I think it is the same requirement as qualifying for the disabled veterans hunting license. Which is 30 or 40% VA rating.

[Klyne3]

We were told that the $10.00 Recreational vehicle would include atv's also. That is $10.00 Each!!!!      Nice to have to explain that to my kids when we leave the bikes at home, It would be cheaper for me to buy a second damn pass than have to pay a fee to support a place I don't ever go.

[DoubleJ]

Adds to the types of vehicles for which the owners are given the opportunity to donate to state parks upon vehicle registration.
Creates a $10 state parks support fee on recreational vehicle registrations until
July 1, 2015, for deposit into the Parks Renewal and Stewardship Account,
with funds directed towards the operation and maintenance at the State Parks
that accommodate recreational vehicles.Creates an up to $50 Family Discover Pass that is transferable among any vehicle.
Allows tsunami cleanup to count as volunteer hours towards a free Discover Pass.

Am I reading this correctly that when my RV tabs come due, there will be a $10 state parks support fee automatically tacked on to my tabs purchase?  My RV has never seen a State Park, and probably never will, yet I have to pay some jacked up fee for a renewal and stewardship account that I will never experience said "stewardship" between now and July 2015 (and we know it will get a forever extension, who are they kidding).

I find it a bit humorous that this bill only allows tsunami clean up as a method of volunteer hours for a free pass.   No freebies here....   

Not just $10 but $13.  There is $10 to support state parks that have rv sites and $3 towards construction and maintenance of rv dump sites.

Double J I think it is the same requirement as qualifying for the disabled veterans hunting license. Which is 30 or 40% VA rating.

30% here   Get my disabled hunting/fishing licenses.  Where do I go to pick up my free Discover Pass?

[Special T]

There is already a fee attached to you RV tags so is this in addition to the other fee? Or is this just the total $3?