New Discover Pass law is WORSE for Hunters.

[danderson]

  I wasn't  planning on purchasing one until I spoke to the local game warden, looks like just about everywhere I want to go its required, and I would rather pay 30.00 dollars, than a fine of 99.00, just my 

[bobcat]

  I wasn't  planning on purchasing one until I spoke to the local game warden, looks like just about everywhere I want to go its required, and I would rather pay 30.00 dollars, than a fine of 99.00, just my 

And don't forget, the fine is $200 if you're cited while driving without the pass. 

[danderson]

 I dont quite understand how they can enforce the driving  through a DNR area because most of kittitas county is included in the DNR protected zone, heck I live in a protected zone ?

[bigtex]

I dont quite understand how they can enforce the driving  through a DNR area because most of kittitas county is included in the DNR protected zone, heck I live in a protected zone ?

If you are referring to a DNR protected zone as a fire response area you are confused in regards to the areas requiring the pass.

There is a lot of DNR land in Kittitas County, however USFS is the leading govt landowner in the county. There are also 5 very large WDFW Wildlife Areas. Prior to the recent change of all DNR land requiring the pass there were only three areas in Kittitas County under DNR jurisidiction which required the pass; Naneum Ridge State Forest, Indian Camp Campground and the Manastash Winter Rec Area.

[danderson]

If you are referring to a DNR protected zone as a fire response area you are confused in regards to the areas requiring the pass.

There is a lot of DNR land in Kittitas County, however USFS is the leading govt landowner in the county. There are also 5 very large WDFW Wildlife Areas. Prior to the recent change of all DNR land requiring the pass there were only three areas in Kittitas County under DNR jurisidiction which required the pass; Naneum Ridge State Forest, Indian Camp Campground and the Manastash Winter Rec Area.

I am confused, it would be nice to have the DNR clarify just exactly were the pass will be required, most of the lands in my community are in joint jurisdiction with a local rural fire protection district and DNR, we all pay an assessment on our property taxes already, for coverage to the DNR, and the fire district, very Little forest service land in the I-90 corridor, surrounding the communities from Easton to Elk height, mostly private and DNR, its way to vague to just say all DNR land?

[bigtex]

I am confused, it would be nice to have the DNR clarify just exactly were the pass will be required, most of the lands in my community are in joint jurisdiction with a local rural fire protection district and DNR, we all pay an assessment on our property taxes already, for coverage to the DNR, and the fire district, very Little forest service land in the I-90 corridor, surrounding the communities from Easton to Elk height, mostly private and DNR, its way to vague to just say all DNR land?

This has nothing at all to do with fire protection districts. It simply has to do with DNR OWNED lands.

If someone other then DNR owns the lands then the pass is not required.

[stoegerhunter]

I am confused, it would be nice to have the DNR clarify just exactly were the pass will be required, most of the lands in my community are in joint jurisdiction with a local rural fire protection district and DNR, we all pay an assessment on our property taxes already, for coverage to the DNR, and the fire district, very Little forest service land in the I-90 corridor, surrounding the communities from Easton to Elk height, mostly private and DNR, its way to vague to just say all DNR land?

This has nothing at all to do with fire protection districts. It simply has to do with DNR OWNED lands.

If someone other then DNR owns the lands then the pass is not required.

I see the signs posted on rayonier land as well.  I'm guessing because there is state land in the back end but the road belongs to rayonier.  So does this mean the state is basically taking my right away to drive down the road without a discover pass.  So I'm basically limited to stay on the highway unless I have a pass.  If this is true I think I deserve some of my tax dollars back that are paying for road repair and state land use.  I mean if we can't use state land without a pass shouldn't the pass support the tax. 

[washelkhunter]

You wont need the DP to travel down roads that directly connect with say a main FS road or CTY or state road. You will have to have it if your parking on that thru road and traveling down the side roads and such. There is a bit of wiggle room tho.
You can ride a bike all you want.

[bobcat]

I am confused, it would be nice to have the DNR clarify just exactly were the pass will be required, most of the lands in my community are in joint jurisdiction with a local rural fire protection district and DNR, we all pay an assessment on our property taxes already, for coverage to the DNR, and the fire district, very Little forest service land in the I-90 corridor, surrounding the communities from Easton to Elk height, mostly private and DNR, its way to vague to just say all DNR land?

There really isn't anywhere I can think around there that would require it. There is the LT Murray Wildlife Area, but for that you should be ok with your WDFW vehicle access pass.

[danderson]

I was up to Joe watt the other day and the signs are up, discover pass required, same with colman canyon, I am assuming that means the LT Murray, way to many folks in these parts don't have any idea were it will be required, the state gets  F  for failing to properly implement the entire program, its becoming clear to me were our states problems have originated, from the top down.

[bigtex]

I was up to Joe watt the other day and the signs are up, discover pass required, same with colman canyon, I am assuming that means the LT Murray, way to many folks in these parts don't have any idea were it will be required, the state gets  F  for failing to properly implement the entire program, its becoming clear to me were our states problems have originated, from the top down.

Those are WDFW areas. You need to read the sign slowly. The signs for DNR/Parks are different then WDFW areas. On the WDFW signs there is some small writing that basically says WDFW vehicle access pass can also be used. However they look the same.

As of right now the only areas in Kittitas County with the DNR Discover Pass signs are the three areas I listed

[Hunting7mm]

I still feel that the state is in for a law suit.  We already pay taxes to use state land and tabs for road repair,,,,, to force people to buy a DP to drive on the road is ridiculous.  We call these back roads for a reason.  I enjoy taking my family for a nice drive but the thought of the state forcing me to buy a pass really p----s me off.  All the state does is hold out their hand wanting more.  People can't even afford gas and now you have to buy a pass.  Enough is enough. A change in leadership can't come soon enough.

[wence5]

Maybe when they start the state income tax they will drop the discover pass....yeah right.   They even say if they can pass the state income tax they could lower property and sales tax.......lower?

This state is a total bunch of crooks....

And I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale too.   

[sidexside]

Write your legislators.  User fees are the way that the state is moving.  Think of the poor *censored*s that have to drive across the 520 bridge over Lake Washington every day.  They pay more than $30 in a week.  Once the leg decided to de-fund State Parks, they increased the fee that WDFW and DNR were proposing.  I hate user fees, I'd rather just pay taxes, but that's the way things are going.  Other states charge a lot more.  California's access pass is a couple hundred bucks.

[mossy8352]

Maybe when they start the state income tax they will drop the discover pass....yeah right.   They even say if they can pass the state income tax they could lower property and sales tax.......lower?

This state is a total bunch of crooks....

And I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale too.   

In Calif. they have state income tax, high sales tax property tax user fees and they still over spend. We need to take the credit card away with our votes and not allow the state income tax as it will not do one thing for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!