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Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« on: March 08, 2012, 02:33:16 PM »
I just think they are two totally separate subjects and should be kept separate.  My son likes the youth board and wont want to search through all the woman stuff...just my  :twocents:
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 03:11:10 PM »
Thanks for your thoughts, I would like to hear other thoughts as well.
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 03:26:27 PM »
Personally I'm not sure we need to segregate in that way. It almost makes it seem like youth and women aren't supposed to post in the "regular" forums. I think everyone ought to be able to post their topic in the appropriate forum, regardless of their age or gender. Just my thoughts, I'm probably missing something.


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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 03:41:53 PM »
Personally I'm not sure we need to segregate in that way. It almost makes it seem like youth and women aren't supposed to post in the "regular" forums. I think everyone ought to be able to post their topic in the appropriate forum, regardless of their age or gender. Just my thoughts, I'm probably missing something.
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 03:50:30 PM »
Personally I'm not sure we need to segregate in that way. It almost makes it seem like youth and women aren't supposed to post in the "regular" forums. I think everyone ought to be able to post their topic in the appropriate forum, regardless of their age or gender. Just my thoughts, I'm probably missing something.

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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 04:12:46 PM »
Just add a men's forum.....
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 04:38:37 PM »
Just add a men's forum.....

Like that's going to work...  8)  :chuckle:


Maybe I should note this is for ladies and youth to post topics they don't want to post in other parts of the forum?
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 04:39:18 PM »
Just add a men's forum.....

I say get rid of both of them.  We don't have a men's forum.  Why have a women's and youth forum?
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 04:56:18 PM »
I'm old and not a woman, so what do I know?    But I say keep them separate, we should be encouraging more youth and women to participate and separate boards would make it easier :twocents:
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 05:01:23 PM »
Just add a men's forum.....

I say get rid of both of them.  We don't have a men's forum.  Why have a women's and youth forum?
youth and womens forums are better seperate :twocents:  And just imagine it says mens in front of all the rest :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 08:12:22 PM »
Personally I'm not sure we need to segregate in that way. It almost makes it seem like youth and women aren't supposed to post in the "regular" forums. I think everyone ought to be able to post their topic in the appropriate forum, regardless of their age or gender. Just my thoughts, I'm probably missing something.



That was the exact reason a couple of us disagreed with a "Ladies" board. Some wanted it as a way to draw in women, but some saw it as a way to segregate. Both men and women are hunters so why have separate boards.

But we do have two separate boards that see little use compared to other boards and I was the one who suggested that they be combined. I know some like the two boards and I saw combining them as a better solution than suggesting we get rid of them.




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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 08:22:16 PM »
Youth do have unique hunt opportunities that no other group shares.  For that reason I like seeing them have a separate place to communicate.
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 08:26:06 PM »
I'm open to the best solution.....
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 08:32:26 PM »
Since we are adding more boards, I think combining them is fine. We have a ton of public boards so combining or eliminating some is inevitable.

Or eliminating the Ladies board and leaving the youth board.
Or leave both and combine Waterfowl/Upland/Turkey.......and see what feathers are ruffled there.  :chuckle:




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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2012, 03:42:45 PM »
I think this is going in the wrong direction...

We have two distinct groups here, that need a place to post for just their group.  Women hunting and fishing is a big difference from Youth hunting & fishing... 

two distinct set of players, two distinct set of posts.

I mean we have fishing and bowfishing...   I am sorry, but if I was a lady here, or a youth, it would be slightly upsetting that we are the minority on this forum, and get treated like what we want to post and talk about with others like us (women or youth) does not matter.

Just my  :twocents:
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2012, 03:57:15 PM »
I think keep them seperate is a good thing.

It is a good thing to see the youth get on here and ask questions without getting the usual smart aleck comments.

I see a question asked like what are some areas to try for a blacktail deer, a lot of time I look at where it is posted, if it is a youth board I try to answer the best I can.

If it is just under the general population I usually disregard it or read all the comments like get out and do some scouting, find an area. etc.... 

I do not know much about the women one. But to me the youth is an important one.  :twocents:

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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2012, 04:36:02 PM »
I agree w/ Blkbearklr. 

I definitely think a youth board is a good thing. 

A separate women board I don't really know if it is that beneficial. 

Why not eliminate the polls board to make room for a women's board if the women's board is necessary :dunno:

I feel like polls should just be placed in whatever category is most appropriate. :twocents:
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2012, 04:38:22 PM »
So that we get more accurate input I added a poll, please vote and continue to comment.  :hello:
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Re: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2012, 06:34:34 PM »
I think this is going in the wrong direction...

We have two distinct groups here, that need a place to post for just their group.  Women hunting and fishing is a big difference from Youth hunting & fishing... 

two distinct set of players, two distinct set of posts.

I mean we have fishing and bowfishing...   I am sorry, but if I was a lady here, or a youth, it would be slightly upsetting that we are the minority on this forum, and get treated like what we want to post and talk about with others like us (women or youth) does not matter.

Just my  :twocents:
Having seperate boards for both ladies and youth makes them minorities. Why not eliminate both and have them post with everyone else?

FWIW - We have discussed adding the bowfishing with another board, as well as combining others. I dont think we really need two dog boards. :dunno:




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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2012, 06:46:18 PM »
What happened to the age of the member being right next to their name?  I thought that was beneficial.  It was especially helpful to know when there was a kid posting. 

If we don't have the age listed, it might be worth having a separate youth board so the kids have a place to ask questions and meet each other.  That is my feeling on it anyway........ :twocents:
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2012, 07:08:46 PM »
What happened to the age of the member being right next to their name?  I thought that was beneficial.  It was especially helpful to know when there was a kid posting. 

If we don't have the age listed, it might be worth having a separate youth board so the kids have a place to ask questions and meet each other.  That is my feeling on it anyway........ :twocents:

i remember that too, i wonder what happened, i will poke around
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2012, 07:22:45 PM »
I think the age thing went away when we got the little squares under our name. Could be just a check box that didn't get rechecked after an update or maybe it went away?




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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2012, 08:02:15 PM »
Used to be the locations would show up there too, now it's gone as well.


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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2012, 08:26:57 PM »
On the plus side, it is not too busy  or distracting.




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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2012, 08:41:09 PM »
I think they should be kept seperate.  Women ("lady") hunters get relegated to a lower position than the manly men hunters all the time.  There is no reason that this site should fall into the status quo pit of including them with the kids.  BTW, no offense meant to the youth hunters out there as well.

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2012, 08:56:53 PM »
Well I think, for the time being, lets combine the Women and Youth boards.  They are both some what slow right now.  That will open a spot.  In the future if they become more active we can revisit seperating them.

Having atleast one Board focused on Women and Youth is a good place to post activites or events specifically for those users. 

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2012, 08:58:57 PM »
I voted to keep the kids' board only.  I notice that, for the most part,  it doesn't matter which board it's in; anyone can reply if they want and I figure thats how it should be.
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2012, 10:23:52 AM »
I dont see why the womens board is there in the first place. Every time Ive gone on there, they talk about things that the rest of us would be talking about. I think the youth board should be seperate but the age limit should be lowered to 16, because after that you can hunt by yourself and do your own scouting. Im all for helping someone out if I can. Thats my simple minded  :twocents:

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2012, 03:11:45 PM »
I dont see why the womens board is there in the first place. Every time Ive gone on there, they talk about things that the rest of us would be talking about. I think the youth board should be seperate but the age limit should be lowered to 16, because after that you can hunt by yourself and do your own scouting. Im all for helping someone out if I can. Thats my simple minded  :twocents:
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2012, 05:11:25 PM »
I like that the "ladies" board is there.  I think it is a good place for the few women that are on here to post so that their thoughts/adventures don't just get lost in the crowd of male voices.

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2012, 09:22:34 AM »
I personally like how organized HW is, don't think their could be to many categories, but I say that because I don't have to moderate them.  Look at other hunt sites, random info tossed everywhere, can't find anything specific your looking for unless its by chance.  I'm no woman so I can't say for sure, but you think it would be easy for them to get on a woman's board and ask specific questions about subjects that other women know from experience, or read old post that are not buried under tons of posting that doesn't relate to them, same goes for the children.  I hardly look at either of them so can't say for sure.  I always say the more organized the more convenient.  It's like combining bird dogs with hound hunters, or regular fishing with bowfishing.  I think those subjects are more alike than a women and youth board.  Anyways, either way I like what you mods do with the place, keep up the good work.   :tup:
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2012, 10:34:06 PM »
I have conflicting feelings about having a womens thread vs getting rid of it. I see where many topics could be on one of the other boards, but it's been nice to check in from time to time to see if my fellow huntresses have come across new gear that worked for them, and not have to dig through General Discussion to find it. that being said, I can't help but feel insulted that women and youth have been lumped together. My instant (although very sarcastic) reaction was kinda like.. "Whoa, you gonna tell me I belong in the kitchen next?" I have been on Hunt-Wa long enough to know that was not the intent, but that's kind of the way it comes across. These are two very different and unique categories of hunters and topics, and personally think that both are worthy of having their own boards. I guess when it comes down to it I'd rather see the  both boards completely nuked than to see them combined like they aren't valid or important enough to have their own. Just my opinion...
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2012, 10:41:34 PM »
While I'm on a roll I thought I might also add this tidbit... We have a "Speak Your Mind" board ( I am a member of and enjoy) which is basically a second General Discussion board (mostly non hunting related posts)...  but we're going to make Ladies and Youth share a board? Perhaps there are other areas that we should be looking at doing away with/combining if space is the issue... :dunno:
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2012, 12:14:50 PM »
While I'm on a roll I thought I might also add this tidbit... We have a "Speak Your Mind" board ( I am a member of and enjoy) which is basically a second General Discussion board (mostly non hunting related posts)...  but we're going to make Ladies and Youth share a board? Perhaps there are other areas that we should be looking at doing away with/combining if space is the issue... :dunno:

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2012, 06:59:50 PM »
I like the idea of separate boards for these two special groups. I want them to feel they have some place unique and welcoming. Worth it in my opinion.

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2012, 02:39:49 PM »
I like the idea of separate boards for these two special groups. I want them to feel they have some place unique and welcoming. Worth it in my opinion.

 :yeah:  agreed.....i notice a majority fo people in the poll and in the thread said to keep the boards seperate they way they have been, yet they were still combined?
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2012, 02:53:58 PM »
I like the idea of separate boards for these two special groups. I want them to feel they have some place unique and welcoming. Worth it in my opinion.

 :yeah:  agreed.....i notice a majority fo people in the poll and in the thread said to keep the boards seperate they way they have been, yet they were still combined?

Actually, I had already combined the boards because they weren't being used much and then caught some flack and added this poll to this topic to get member thoughts.  :twocents:
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2012, 03:16:24 PM »
Can you take the two boards and leave then together and make sub-catagories in then one ofr women and one for youth  :dunno: Maybe it's already like that  :dunno: just a idea  :twocents:
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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2012, 03:22:34 PM »
I was busy putting 4 new boards together on the forum, but I will look more seriously at separating them again and possibly making them sub boards of another board.
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2012, 07:40:32 PM »
I think there should be a FAQ section in the general board in HUGE letters

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2012, 02:05:12 PM »
I voted for them to be separate again.  I read most of the boards and respond on some.  But I've learned a lot from both women and men who post on there about things specific to women.  Since I'm not on here everyday, I'd probably miss alot...you guys post a ton of stuff!!!  :)  Good stuff, but it's a lot to view! 
I intend to get my daughter on here also and think she'd be more drawn to the youth and women's boards first, then the others if she has time between facebook! :chuckle:

That said, if you need room for other boards, then keep them combined, but don't get rid of them altogether

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« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2012, 07:01:03 PM »
The forum actually seems to be running very well (knock on wood) since I reduced the number of categories. That's the only factor I can identify, becuase I ahve increased the number of boards with the recent additions.

The members have spoken, the poll shows most members who voted in favor of separating the boards like they used to be.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO... :tup:

Please give me a little time to get that done, I'm working on a few projects at the moment, but will get to it soon.   :hello:
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2012, 07:10:36 PM »
I think there should be a FAQ section in the general board in HUGE letters


I modified the board that has that info to have that heading. It's right at the top of the board under the "General Discussion".

When you are in the "General Discussion" board, FAQ is right at the top of the page.  :tup:
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2012, 10:04:15 PM »
with 13 grandkids I'd like to know I'm talking to an adult...just saying...
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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2012, 12:34:51 PM »
Thanks bearpaw! For actually taking time to listen to what the members want.  My son was like do they think all kids are like girls or something?  And my wife was like so women are children?  I love this site and will stay a member if it stays the same or goes back the way it was but just wanted to thank you for your time.

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2012, 03:09:45 PM »
I have conflicting feelings about having a womens thread vs getting rid of it. I see where many topics could be on one of the other boards, but it's been nice to check in from time to time to see if my fellow huntresses have come across new gear that worked for them, and not have to dig through General Discussion to find it. that being said, I can't help but feel insulted that women and youth have been lumped together. My instant (although very sarcastic) reaction was kinda like.. "Whoa, you gonna tell me I belong in the kitchen next?" I have been on Hunt-Wa long enough to know that was not the intent, but that's kind of the way it comes across. These are two very different and unique categories of hunters and topics, and personally think that both are worthy of having their own boards. I guess when it comes down to it I'd rather see the  both boards completely nuked than to see them combined like they aren't valid or important enough to have their own. Just my opinion...

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My wife likes the women's board, it's a good place for her to get opinions on gear and issues that relate specifically to women without weeding through all the "guy stuff".  It's also a good resource for me ( :chuckle:), okay not like that, but it helps me temper my attitude and ideas about hunting with what will work for her and help both of us enjoy the sport.

 
The forum actually seems to be running very well (knock on wood) since I reduced the number of categories. That's the only factor I can identify, becuase I ahve increased the number of boards with the recent additions.

The members have spoken, the poll shows most members who voted in favor of separating the boards like they used to be.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO... :tup:

Please give me a little time to get that done, I'm working on a few projects at the moment, but will get to it soon.   :hello:

Thank you very much!! 

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Re: Poll Added: Combining woman & youth forum bad idea?
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2012, 03:23:07 PM »
 :sry: for not getting this done sooner, thanks for the reminder.  :tup:
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