youth elk gun

[carpsniperg2]

"I'm not saying there not good elk rounds I wiould pick the .308 over the 7mm-08 any day. you can't compare them"

Now that's you saying that not the book right? Didn't we just show you that in fact you can compare them. Maybe not in your eyes but infact! They are both almost the same when matched with EQUAL weight bullets. The 7mm-08 even beats the 308 in some of the cases. SO yes we can compare them and yes they are both so close to being equal. Look at the numbers we have posted

[copasj]

Wife has a 7mm-08 and I shoot a 7x57 mauser, ballistics are basically identical between the two.  I don't see a point in going bigger unless you want to push out further than 200 or 300 yards.  I reload though, so I can tailor the loads however I want.  She can consistently hold groups to1.5"@200 yards, and we will be moving her to 300 this year.   I don't shoot past 200 because my rifle likes 175@2350 so drop gets a little excessive for me to feel comfortable calling in the field.   

308 would be easier to find and probably cheaper to boot, but it might kick a little more.

[bear hunter]

"I'm not saying there not good elk rounds I would pick the .308 over the 7mm-08 any day. you can't compare them"

Now that's you saying that not the book right? Didn't we just show you that in fact you can compare them. Maybe not in your eyes but infact! They are both almost the same when matched with EQUAL weight bullets. The 7mm-08 even beats the 308 in some of the cases. SO yes we can compare them and yes they are both so close to being equal. Look at the numbers we have posted

I was talking about the 140gr bullet vs 180 gr you said I can't compare them. ALL I WAS SAYING IS THE GUY THAT WROTE THE BOOK SUGGESTS NOT SHOOTING OVER A 100 YARDS WITH THE 7MM-08 USING THE 140GR BULLET. If I had to use the 7mm-08 I wouldn't us the 140gr factory round. If I loaded it I would go with a heaver 175gr spitzer bt bullet that's all. When I said you can't campare " One is 140gr  and the other one 180gr. The 7mm-08 175gr is going at 2600fps and ke is 2626 and the .308 is 2600 fps and the ke is 2701 that's 75lbs more in the 308 so I like the 308 over the 7mm-08 MY OPION

[bobcat]

I would pick the 308 over the 7/08 too, but not because the 308 kills better. The 7/08 with a 140 grain bullet would do just fine on elk, just as a 308 with a 150 grain. With the good bullets we have available to us nowadays, you don't necessarily need the heavyweights anymore.  I would still try to limit my shots to 300 yards or less, but I'd do the same with the 308, the 270, 280, 30-06 etc.

As I said before, in my opinion, the 308 and 7/08 are the same. After all, they both use the same case, hold the same amount of powder, and the diameter of the bullets is only 2 hundredths of an inch different.

[copasj]

I would pick the 308 over the 7/08 too, but not because the 308 kills better. The 7/08 with a 140 grain bullet would do just fine on elk, just as a 308 with a 150 grain. With the good bullets we have available to us nowadays, you don't necessarily need the heavyweights anymore.  I would still try to limit my shots to 300 yards or less, but I'd do the same with the 308, the 270, 280, 30-06 etc.

As I said before, in my opinion, the 308 and 7/08 are the same. After all, they both use the same case, hold the same amount of powder, and the diameter of the bullets is only 2 hundredths of an inch different.

+1

But like I said, I reload.  I'm using 175 interlocks with my 7x57, but the wife's 7mm-08 likes 120 TTSX's.  And the 120 TSX's have built an outstanding reputation in the 7mm-08 on everything up to moose.   

[carpsniperg2]

"I'm not saying there not good elk rounds I would pick the .308 over the 7mm-08 any day. you can't compare them"

Now that's you saying that not the book right? Didn't we just show you that in fact you can compare them. Maybe not in your eyes but infact! They are both almost the same when matched with EQUAL weight bullets. The 7mm-08 even beats the 308 in some of the cases. SO yes we can compare them and yes they are both so close to being equal. Look at the numbers we have posted

I was talking about the 140gr bullet vs 180 gr you said I can't compare them. ALL I WAS SAYING IS THE GUY THAT WROTE THE BOOK SUGGESTS NOT SHOOTING OVER A 100 YARDS WITH THE 7MM-08 USING THE 140GR BULLET. If I had to use the 7mm-08 I wouldn't us the 140gr factory round. If I loaded it I would go with a heaver 175gr spitzer bt bullet that's all. When I said you can't campare " One is 140gr  and the other one 180gr. The 7mm-08 175gr is going at 2600fps and ke is 2626 and the .308 is 2600 fps and the ke is 2701 that's 75lbs more in the 308 so I like the 308 over the 7mm-08 MY OPION

Come on now apples to oranges When you change them that much no they can't compare. Still the 7mm-08 is flatter shooting then that 180grain bullet for sure

[deerslyr]

Numbers are numbers. You can try all you want to put a specific ft. lbs to kill an elk but it really means nothing in the real world.  If you put a bullet in the lungs of an elk its going to die if shot at a reasonable range with a good bullet. Plain and simple. Id say 270, 7-08, and 308 are the best bets for a youth. I myself prefer the 270 shooting a 150 grain partition. Ive been hunting with it since I was 13 and see no reason to upgrade to a larger caliber. Any elk presenting a broadside shot out to 350 yards is a dead elk in my cross hairs.

[bear hunter]

If you put a bullet in the lungs of an elk its going to die if shot at a reasonable range with a good bullet.

That is all I was trying saying about the 7mm-08 and others (again my opion)

[high country]

Wait till you watch someone lay a bull flat at 500 yds with a 260. I would take any 260, 7-08 or 308 without reservation, although that would be the order of my choosing. I would also add the 257wby to the list. In a hiwa/vanguard they can be had for a low price, always shoot well and there is not a need to hold over till way out there. I have personally killed elk with one and its effectiveness is stunning. It is costly to feed factory ammo, but the lack of missed shots is a good trade.

[TwoSixFourWins]

6.5x55

[spookgus]

Going by the numbers if someone thinks the 7MM Rem Mag is a 500 yard elk gun then the 7MM-08 is a 350 yard elk gun.

Has anyone shot these out of their 7mm-08?
HSM 160 grain Speer Grand Slams.
Double Tap 160 grain Accubonds

[carpsniperg2]

Going by the numbers if someone thinks the 7MM Rem Mag is a 500 yard elk gun then the 7MM-08 is a 350 yard elk gun.

Has anyone shot these out of their 7mm-08?
HSM 160 grain Speer Grand Slams.
Double Tap 160 grain Accubonds

I have shot accubonds out of my 7mm-08's but I have not shot the factory loads.

[RadSav]

Going by the numbers if someone thinks the 7MM Rem Mag is a 500 yard elk gun then the 7MM-08 is a 350 yard elk gun.

Has anyone shot these out of their 7mm-08?
HSM 160 grain Speer Grand Slams.
Double Tap 160 grain Accubonds

Have not shot the HSM factory rounds, but the old Speer Grand Slam was a fantastic bullet for elk and bear.  Heard the new one is a keeper too, but I have yet to shoot it.  160 grains does seem a little over weight for the 7-08 if using either of the two bullets you listed - IMO  HSM only rates the 160 SGS at 2544fps.  To get those two bullets to perform at their best you really want a good bit of velocity so I'd be looking at the 145grain.  With their controlled expansion you should be fine.