Entiat Poaching Case UPDATED!

[Wenatcheejay]

countless bucks being killed there by indians is okay 

OK? Nope, encouraged.

They deserve 50% of all resources they can show they might have ever used in a usual way in this State.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

The penalties are way to light to stop these kinds of acts.  Should b a felony.  Then they'd NEVER be able to own a firearm again.  Force them to learn to hunt with archery gear lol!  All states penalties are simaler WAY to leanient!  My personal opinion is they keep the laws like they are and eventually hunting won't be here for us.  Stoping our self sustainability is there primary goal.  They manage the natural resources horribly.  I'm not saying the wardens don't do good work but there hands are tied too.  The legislature is in bed with the house the hous w the senate and so on.  People like this should be imprisoned doc work crew WOW!  I'd have fun bsn with all the cons.  As the price of food goes up so should the penitalys.  People stealing wood are charged w felonies why not deer?

[Skyvalhunter]

 

[Pathfinder101]

I get a kick how that buck is considered a trophy buck.... (and anything with one point more then 3 on one side)  most required areas on mule deer is 3 point min. give it one more point then the minimum and , skip an ok buck, a big buck, and whopper to trophy......   LAME ...  should just slap anyone with the same dam fine make it 10 grand I dont care...  sounds so stupid.

I think they just decided that they had to draw the line somewhere.  Most mature mule deer have 4 points.  On the other hand WDFW could write a 4 page description of what a "trophy buck" is; Mass, Spread, Height, Points, etc... 

[pianoman9701]

The thinking I believe is that most poaching is done on animals with big racks, not cows and smaller bucks or bulls. It was an attempt to dissuade those poachers specifically. I personally agree that all poaching should be big fines and big loss of license. I see the the MT FWP takes licenses away for 14 years in some cases. We should do that, too.

[lilredhead]

A Felony!? C'MON MAN! Illegal and not too bright yes, but its not like he strapped explosives to himself or climbed a bell tower and started killing innocent people. Its a deer. Already enough things considered a felony they shouldn't be. Glad to see that they got caught and got their peters smacked pretty good. If they're dumb enough to to it again..........well, you can't fix stupid.

[Skyvalhunter]

  This guy had a Chiwawa tag and shot the deer in the Entiat unit. To say this should be a felony is just stupid thinking even though he did grow up in the Entiat valley and should know the boundries.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

They charge people with felonys for a lot less than poaching.  Like stealing fire wood billions of trees yes but it's a natural resource and they will also add stipulations that the offender can't even drive on a logging road.  Poachers do worse than steal wood.  There are not billions of deer. Poachers are scum.  People who say the laws are to strict will help deminish the population of game.  Sounds to me that ANYONE saying they shouldn't get slammed is worried about what's gonna happen when they get caught.  If you don't kill illegally then why the F would you care how harsh the punishment is.  Conflict of interest is what I hear...   

[lilredhead]

Stealing firewood a felony, case in point. Lets take all responsibility away from individuals and let big brother regulate everything    and we won't be allowed to hunt way before we run out of animals.  Justice was served accordingly, not excessively.

[Mike450r]

Felony theft is stealing something with a value of $250.00 or more.   

This guy stole a mule deer,  a mule deer is worth a hell of a lot more than $250.00 to me.  I vote for felony charges on that all day long.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

Thank you mike.  Big brother would rather keep the laws leanient and have poachers kill off any chance you stand at self reliance and sustainability.  If we don't vote for stricter laws for poaching big brother never will.  There is no argument for theses crimes not being felonys.  NONE.  I have been skunked four years in a row archery hunting.  I see deer in my back yard every day and I have never considered shooting.  That's not hunting that's poaching.  Fair chase is the only way to hunt.  How could he even of been proud to show off a buck he shot in his yard in a closed gnu?  I'd be ashamed of that mount.  A lot of fair chase hunters spend thousands of dollars and travel long distances and prepare for each season scouting learning the lay of the land preparing mentally and physically to do what they love on opening morning even putting in to the drawings for twns of years just to have some dummie pull up in his truck with a different areas special permit in his pocket and shoot your bull or buck that you've worked so hard for makes me sick to see him skate like that.

[PlateauNDN]

Thank you mike.  Big brother would rather keep the laws leanient and have poachers kill off any chance you stand at self reliance and sustainability.  If we don't vote for stricter laws for poaching big brother never will.  There is no argument for theses crimes not being felonys.  NONE.  I have been skunked four years in a row archery hunting.  I see deer in my back yard every day and I have never considered shooting.  That's not hunting that's poaching.  Fair chase is the only way to hunt.  How could he even of been proud to show off a buck he shot in his yard in a closed gnu?  I'd be ashamed of that mount.  A lot of fair chase hunters spend thousands of dollars and travel long distances and prepare for each season scouting learning the lay of the land preparing mentally and physically to do what they love on opening morning even putting in to the drawings for twns of years just to have some dummie pull up in his truck with a different areas special permit in his pocket and shoot your bull or buck that you've worked so hard for makes me sick to see him skate like that.

I feel the same way except from a different side of the coin.  

[6x6in6]

I'm good with the felony.
In fact, I think that the fines are too light and the potential for license reinstatement are too light.  I could really care less about the jail time though.  Why pay for free food along with room and board?  Give them a ton of community service hours to be done on State and Federal Land only.  Make it financially painful and take away their legal right to obtain a license.

[PlateauNDN]

Thank you mike.  Big brother would rather keep the laws leanient and have poachers kill off any chance you stand at self reliance and sustainability.  If we don't vote for stricter laws for poaching big brother never will.  There is no argument for theses crimes not being felonys.  NONE.  I have been skunked four years in a row archery hunting.  I see deer in my back yard every day and I have never considered shooting.  That's not hunting that's poaching.  Fair chase is the only way to hunt.  How could he even of been proud to show off a buck he shot in his yard in a closed gnu?  I'd be ashamed of that mount.  A lot of fair chase hunters spend thousands of dollars and travel long distances and prepare for each season scouting learning the lay of the land preparing mentally and physically to do what they love on opening morning even putting in to the drawings for twns of years just to have some dummie pull up in his truck with a different areas special permit in his pocket and shoot your bull or buck that you've worked so hard for makes me sick to see him skate like that.

I feel the same way except from a different side of the coin.

Sorry, I just read this again and maybe I should've made it a little more clearer.  I feel the same way when I put in the time and effort to scout and look for the game prior to fall and low and behold somebody goes and waits until the game are starving and fighting for survival on their winter range and wacks some big bulls/bucks and feels like they did something.  That's not hunting and that's for damn sure not sustinence hunting if the target was the male species because he was just standing there conserving energy for the winter.  Or driving to a location that is easily accessible by roads and wacking 8 or 9 big bulls and claiming they're for sustenance when you could've just shot some cows that are becoming overpopulated in that particular area.  Or how about slaughtering a big bull that is pretty much a farm raised tame cattle bull and then parading him around and entering contests like you accomplished something.  I hunt for sustenance and to provide food for my family, not to take as many big bulls/bucks that I can pile in my truck.  If I hunt other than fall time it's usually for a funeral and that's not very often I will utilize the permit and harvest a cow.  Why get a male?  Let him have a chance to pass on his genes a couple of times and harvest him when he's at his peak strength on his terms, that's hunting!

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Very well put PLAT!