Author Topic: 3 vanes vs. 4 vanes (Read 11020 times)

grousetracker · « **on:** March 14, 2012, 06:44:54 PM »

i shoot 4 vane with slick trick broadheads and they fly great, my practice arrows are 3 vane and shoot great with field points but the broadheads 2'' to 3'' off at 20yds. should i change broadheads to shoot 3 vanes or just shoot the 4's? my vanes are blazer.

JPhelps · « **Reply #1 on:** March 14, 2012, 06:49:18 PM »

I would stay with 4. More control over your fixed blade heads.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 14, 2012, 06:57:34 PM »

Hands down 4!

Button Nubbs · « **Reply #3 on:** March 14, 2012, 09:54:44 PM »

Your bow is out of tune if you notice a difference between 3 and 4 fletch.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:02:12 PM »

Not always the case, it could be the arrows as well. Some broadheads also plane and with more surface like 3 compared to 4. You can help control the flight better. I would say there is more of a chance that it is the arrow then the bow.

RightPlace-RightTime · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:04:19 PM »

Blazer or Fusion 4 vane

724wd · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2012, 11:35:22 AM »

i shoot three big (4.5"), full left helical feathers. no issues!

D-Rock425 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2012, 12:40:24 PM »

Ever try tuning your broadhead or are they just screwed on.

JLS · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2012, 12:42:43 PM »

There's also a good chance that the bow is being torqued slightly.

DIYARCHERYJUNKIE · « **Reply #9 on:** May 20, 2012, 07:50:54 AM »

Where do I buy 4 vein blazers? I looked on there website didn't see. I don't figur any shops have em local?

Johnb317 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 20, 2012, 08:41:25 AM »

Knockpoint sells 4 fletch, and I think some of the online shops will special order. I shoot a whisker biscuit and would like to try 4 with offset instead of straight.
Have read that improves grouping, but don't want to spend 30 on a fetching tool and not like the results.

TommyH · « **Reply #11 on:** May 20, 2012, 08:47:53 AM »

i might need to switch to some 4 vains, if it helps out the accuracy i would. I shoot 3 blade muzzys last year they flew pretty darn good tho.

Instinct · « **Reply #12 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:05:59 PM »

Try indexing ur bh to ur vanes so they are inline w/ each other

archery288 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:16:22 PM »

I shoot 3 blazer vanes on an FMJ 400 shaft with a Montec broadhead. Never had an issue with flight ever. I do fletch all my own arrows and tune my own bows and make sure everything is perfect, but I've never had any planing issue in the past with a fixed blade head. I used to shoot 4 blazers and then went to 3 to cut a little weight. It's honestly a personal preference on whether you want 3 or 4 vanes on your arrows.

TikkaT3-270Shortmag · « **Reply #14 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:24:45 PM »

Change them all to 4 Brian. Why would u have different veins? Get them re fletched to 4!

bloodhound · « **Reply #15 on:** May 20, 2012, 05:23:20 PM »

i bought the tool and works great! i fletch all my own arrows now. if i mess up a vane which i do often, i just fix it myself no prob!

DIYARCHERYJUNKIE · « **Reply #16 on:** May 20, 2012, 07:28:39 PM »

I'm ordering mine from knockpoint tues. there closed till then. Thanks man that's the only shop that sounds like they can get exactly what I want... four vein helical on beman 340 ics hunter. tuned to four blade 125 grn slick tricks. I hope they stack like these feild points.

bloodhound · « **Reply #17 on:** May 20, 2012, 08:05:55 PM »

any shop will and can do it just as a heads up. you just have to ask and pay!

DIYARCHERYJUNKIE · « **Reply #18 on:** May 21, 2012, 12:03:40 PM »

I should just buy it and make my own. Then I can fix as needed. Do you find the spine and line up a vane with it. I'd need the shop to find my spine right?

JLS · « **Reply #19 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:25:37 PM »

Buy your own jig. It's easy, I've never worried about finding the spine like I would building a fishing rod. I just line up the first vane with the arrow label, then do the other two from there.

I still can't believe there are folks out there shooting straight fletching for broadheads. To each their own I guess, but I would never use anything but helical on mine.

buckfvr · « **Reply #20 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:49:11 PM »

If you end up having them cut and fletch, you can at home, screw your broadheads into the loose inserts, then spot them with glue, shove them in and rotate to index with your fletch. Before I glue inserts, I give a few twists with a .270 bore brush and clean with denatured alcohol on a Q-tip.

I also advocate getting your own jig, shaft saw, vise, press....everything you need to do your own work. Dont forget an arrow spinner to cull out shafts that dont spin perfect with broadheads.......

Almost forgot.......3 3in Arizonas, 2 deg. offset with broadheads.....NEVER a problem of any kind.......I dont worry about indexing them either........

I think the norm has been straight fletch for biscut users only.

Johnb317 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:50:46 AM »

I've read that offset works fine with wb. Anyone shoot this setup?
Want to get my own fletching tool but have to decide.
I shoot 4 fletch blazers with a wb.

Button Nubbs · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:33:02 PM »

Broadhead tune, broadhead tune, broadhead tune. Lining your blades up with your fletching won't do anything. Its all in your bow. No need to shoot 4 fletch in my mind either. I shoot 3 fletch and can take a grizz trick, montec, and a stinger and they will all have the same poi as my field tips. Of course my bow is broadhead tuned to perfection.

DIYARCHERYJUNKIE · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:41:48 PM »

I'm ordering 4 blade slick tricks w four vane helical 2" blazers. I'll post the groupings at differnt yards we can compare our groups.

Dr. Death · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:06:48 PM »

I line my BH's up with the fletching, just to ensure that every arrow leaves the bow in the same orientation and way. Not saying it makes them fly better by doing this, just saying that it probably doesnt hurt. Like the question of 3 fletch w/4 blade heads, can't line them up with the fletching, but you can line the blades up so they always leave the bow at 12-3-6-9, with the fletch always leaving with 1 vane at 12. Thus, the arrow leaves the bow the same everytime....

DIYARCHERYJUNKIE · « **Reply #25 on:** June 05, 2012, 03:27:05 PM »

Does anyone know of a shop in wa that will find the spine and line a fletch up with it? Nock point won't do. I found the spine tester for 150 or so. I am willing to pay shipping and wait. So any good custom arrow shop referral would be sweet.

hughjorgan · « **Reply #26 on:** June 05, 2012, 03:39:27 PM »

Quote from: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 05, 2012, 03:27:05 PM

Does anyone know of a shop in wa that will find the spine and line a fletch up with it? Nock point won't do. I found the spine tester for 150 or so. I am willing to pay shipping and wait. So any good custom arrow shop referral would be sweet.

You mean the spline?

DIYARCHERYJUNKIE · « **Reply #27 on:** June 05, 2012, 04:32:02 PM »

Yeah I think lol. Is there a spline? I'm lost now. Does anyone find the spline and line it up w the fletch / broad head???

hughjorgan · « **Reply #28 on:** June 05, 2012, 10:00:53 PM »

The spline or heavy/thick point along the arrow shaft can be found by plugging the ends of the shaft and floating it in a bath tub. The heavy side will move to the bottom as the arrow floats. The second method is to place the shaft on a arrow spine tester and place the weight on the shaft. Rotate the shaft and watch the deflection of the dial indicator. When it reaches it highest or stiffest point you have found the spline of the arrow shaft.

DIYARCHERYJUNKIE · « **Reply #29 on:** June 06, 2012, 09:36:42 AM »

Thank you very much.

buckfvr · « **Reply #30 on:** June 06, 2012, 10:07:00 AM »

Quote from: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 05, 2012, 03:27:05 PM

Does anyone know of a shop in wa that will find the spine and line a fletch up with it? Nock point won't do. I found the spine tester for 150 or so. I am willing to pay shipping and wait. So any good custom arrow shop referral would be sweet.

Many of us are anal about our own arrows and archery equipment in general. We do anal things ( OCD ) with our arrows.

That being said, dont expect a shop to pursue your anal tendencies.

That is my reason and argument for having the equipment to do your own work.

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