Isle Royal wolves may be extirpated

[humanure]

And i am not calling other hunters bad, I'm just putting it out there for those bad apples that may or may not be on this site that there are hunters like myself who do not condone breaking the law to prove a point.

Tree-hugger? Really? Thats funny, because I know people who usually call me Ted Nugent for hunting and such.

[BIGINNER]

    ok Ted,.. lol  sorry i went off at you,  now lets see some pics,.. pics are required from new members.  do you bird hunt al all? 

[humanure]

Pics of what? I did not get a kill last year, so I haven't gotten my first kill yet. I have not hunted bird yet, though I'd like to go for duck hunting sometime. I took a shot at a grouse, but that was with a long-bow and I'm really not a good shot with that.

But yes, I do care about our rights, but as someone who always seems to be stuck in the middle, I want wolves here as well. I have my complaints on the management thats being done, but thats what the public meetings are for and the way you have to play the system. I seriously think that them having a hands-off approach to the east side situation is a bad idea. They need to relocate some of the wolves to the area's that haven't met the number requirments so that this time-line of theirs can get started so that we can reach the recovery goal and eventually, better management. Letting the east side become over-populated while they wait on the west is stupid.

[BIGINNER]

Pics of what? I did not get a kill last year, so I haven't gotten my first kill yet. I have not hunted bird yet, though I'd like to go for duck hunting sometime. I took a shot at a grouse, but that was with a long-bow and I'm really not a good shot with that.

But yes, I do care about our rights, but as someone who always seems to be stuck in the middle, I want wolves here as well. I have my complaints on the management thats being done, but thats what the public meetings are for and the way you have to play the system. I seriously think that them having a hands-off approach to the east side situation is a bad idea. They need to relocate some of the wolves to the area's that haven't met the number requirments so that this time-line of theirs can get started so that we can reach the recovery goal and eventually, better management. Letting the east side become over-populated while they wait on the west is stupid.

agreed, but it think translocating is stupid too,  why not just start management in areas that have met and exceaded the goal?  wouldn't that be smart?  whay wait till its too late to start management? why not start management right away?  little by little.  its pretty stupid to wait till all hell breaks loose to try and start fixing things,...  management isn't about fixing,.. its about maintaining.

and since you seem to like pointing out mistake of other hunters'...

I took a shot at a grouse, but that was with a long-bow and I'm really not a good shot with that.

if you're such an ethical hunter,.. why are you taking shots at wildlife with a weopon you're not good with??   

i'm far from an angel,.. but you decided to start pointing.                  

[humanure]

Well, I was out with friends in our main campsite practicing with the bow, then i heard that sound the make with their wings. I already had the arrow drawn back to hit our target we set up, so I turned to see if I could get a good view, thought it was within range and took it. I missed, but i tried. I'm not horrible with the bow, but I'm not an expert either.

You make some good points as well. I heard these get brought up and Spokane and thought they were valid. Apparently the powers at be thought otherwise. Also, I am one of those who think re-writing the whole management plan at that point would have been extremely ineffective and costly. Thats why I said we should move forward and correct the plan on the move. To get the scientists back to the drawling board would have put the east side in a far worse spot as we wait another 4 or more years for the plan to be written. Thats why to me it seemed best that if they are dead set in state recovery/management as a whole, then lets do what we can to get it started asap before the east gets out of hand. I also said that farmers should be given the permits to harass/kill if they catch a predation in the act no matter where we are in the recovery.