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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2012, 08:50:56 PM »
It's not hard for typical people to mistake coyotes, hybrids and other animals for wolves, to the naked, untrained eye. I've had people swear on their lives that a few of my German Shepherds were wolves(which I just don't see how).

For officials, its easy to tell is a creature is a wolf or a hybrid. Spec's being the stance, the chest and the feet.
I would have to respectfully disagree.. There was no mistaking a wolf versus a coyote the multiple times I have encountered them here in Washington.. And I would be considered "untrained".

Absolutely correct.  Ask WDFW how many "mountain lion" sightings turn out to be a golden retriever or a big yellow house cat.
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2012, 09:18:56 PM »
Some people just can't tell the difference. I had a guy say, "If that dog didn't have a collar on, I would have thought he was a wolf and shot him". This particular GShep is pure white. When was the last time you seen an Arctic Wolf around here?
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2012, 07:22:08 AM »
People mistake them ALL THE TIME.  People see what they want to see.  If we made a wolf report on the OP there would be a dozen other false sightings by the end of the week

Hey Bart-
Post the hybrid pics you posted a year or 3 ago!

I'll look for them. Some are more convincing than others, but a well respected rancher got these "wolf" photos and was SURE they were collared wolves...

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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2012, 07:44:10 AM »
Funny thing is, I posted a photo of the seven in the lookout pack, and had half the board swear they were coyotes.   Yeah right.  Some folks will never have a clue.   There is a coyote track, a dog track and a wolf track.   There is a coyote, and a wolf.   Hybrids I do think could be confusing.  All depends on the percentage I'd imagine.   Hell we have housecats coming up here all the time as bobcats.

That was a big house cat though  :chuckle:


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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2012, 09:08:27 AM »
So if you report a wolf sighting to WDFW and they brush you off with "it was a hybrid" or "it was a coyote", ask if it is okay to shoot it.  They can't have it both ways.  Either it is a wolf and protected, or it is not and it is fair game with the appropriate hunting license, yes?

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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2012, 10:29:18 AM »
Here's the hybrid that was DNA'd. This was posted in the Hunting Washington Wolf Count. To me it's pretty hard to tell the difference between this hybrid and a regular wolf.
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2012, 11:30:27 AM »
Yeah I don't know many people that would be willing to take that gamble..
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2012, 12:10:52 PM »
That must be a VERY high percentage hybrid, but the barrel chest and front leg structure is showing of dog genes.
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2012, 11:57:23 AM »
I've heard them and seen there tracks in the Tanuem Elk heights area,also i live in Monroe up in the woods creek area and there's been a couple wolf sightings there i know one of the guys who saw one, he's a pretty straight up guy who's been hunting since he was a kid

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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #54 on: April 28, 2012, 10:54:04 PM »
There is definitely a pack in the Ruby Creek Area. I work in that area. I haven't seen or heard them but I know people that have. I have personally seen a lot of their scat and tracks. Two weeks ago one of our guys heard them well south of Timber Mountain pushing into the Tacoma Creek area.
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2012, 12:14:22 AM »
There is definitely a pack in the Ruby Creek Area. I work in that area. I haven't seen or heard them but I know people that have. I have personally seen a lot of their scat and tracks. Two weeks ago one of our guys heard them well south of Timber Mountain pushing into the Tacoma Creek area.

DB, we really need some sightings documented in GMU 117. I know the wolves are there but we need more sightings for WDFW to see. Can you get the coordinates and post them in the Wolf Count tipic?

Have your friend go this website and get us some coordinates:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2012, 12:25:58 AM »
There is definitely a pack in the Ruby Creek Area. I work in that area. I haven't seen or heard them but I know people that have. I have personally seen a lot of their scat and tracks. Two weeks ago one of our guys heard them well south of Timber Mountain pushing into the Tacoma Creek area.

DB, we really need some sightings documented in GMU 117. I know the wolves are there but we need more sightings for WDFW to see. Can you get the coordinates and post them in the Wolf Count tipic?

Have your friend go this website and get us some coordinates:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/

 :tup: Will do.... and I will get some cameras running in that area to see if I can get some pics.
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2012, 12:27:12 AM »
There is definitely a pack in the Ruby Creek Area. I work in that area. I haven't seen or heard them but I know people that have. I have personally seen a lot of their scat and tracks. Two weeks ago one of our guys heard them well south of Timber Mountain pushing into the Tacoma Creek area.

DB, we really need some sightings documented in GMU 117. I know the wolves are there but we need more sightings for WDFW to see. Can you get the coordinates and post them in the Wolf Count tipic?

Have your friend go this website and get us some coordinates:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/

 :tup: Will do.... and I will get some cameras running in that area to see if I can get some pics.

In reference to my post above.. Those cams will have to wait a couple months because I will soon be going out of country on business.
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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2012, 10:01:30 PM »
there are more than 10 packs, possibly.  there should be only 1 or 2!  we do not need more predaters, we need less, cuz we are the number one predater.  we pay for it.   mike w

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Re: 10 wolf packs in WA...possibly.
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2012, 12:30:25 AM »
Thats a pretty selfish way to think, guy. You pay for the privilege to hunt, but that doesn't mean you own the animals. "We are the number one predator", what does that mean anyways? Does that mean we get to throw our weight around and push the other predators out of the equation out of some self-righteous indignation? That screams ego-maniacal  selfishness. You've got to 'think like a mountain' and quit acting like such a Buck Calder.
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